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IRC is not even remotely comparable. It doesn't save messages, you can't upload media, you can't delete or edit messages, you can't do most things that slack do

IRC is not even remotely comparable. It doesn't save messages, you can't upload media, you can't delete or edit messages, you can't do most things that slack does. Why would you even bring that up.

PMunch 3y ago
I'd say for 90% of what I do on Slack IRC is very comparable. It has channels so you can organize your chats around certain topics or ad-hoc create one to discuss between only a handful of people. It also has one-to-one chats. Sure, it doesn't have media sharing (unless you count the quite terrible file-sending feature) but it's not terribly often I need to send files over Slack which aren't already stored in some shared storage so I can simply send a link (which also means that access to documents is managed in a single place, generally a good thing). And as for delete/edit, I hardly ever do this. Most of the time people fully well understand me if I mistype something, and there's always the trusty asterisk correction which is faster to type anyways. And one thing IRC does which Slack doesn't is show me who's in the room, which at least gives an indication as to who might have seen my message. Does Slack add more features? Sure, and some of them are pretty great. But is it a revolution over IRC to the point that you sully your mouth by uttering them in the same sentence? Not at all. At the end of the day they are both room-oriented text based communication channels.
- damezumari 3y ago
  You can see people on Slack channels too, and their presence status if enabled. That said, I wouldn't count on that, as I leave one client always open and in non-away state just to seem that I care about my work. That said, most horrible part about Slack is how more and more closed it is becoming; when there was XMPP bridge you could at least use some non-shitty client (hello, Electron) to interact with it.
- breakfastduck 3y ago
  "I'd say for 90% of what I do" and there immediately the point is invalid. What you do is not what everyone does.
damezumari 3y ago
I would argue that everything you listed is a bug, not a feature. - Having media in chats is obnoxious; links can be passed along in IRC too (and data, although DCC sucks). - Editing/Deletion of messages actually makes the threads later on harder to understand as someone may have commented on the original message.

IRC is not even remotely comparable. It doesn't save messages, you can't upload media, you can't delete or edit messages, you can't do most things that slack does. Why would you even bring that up.

PMunch 3y ago

I'd say for 90% of what I do on Slack IRC is very comparable. It has channels so you can organize your chats around certain topics or ad-hoc create one to discuss between only a handful of people. It also has one-to-one chats. Sure, it doesn't have media sharing (unless you count the quite terrible file-sending feature) but it's not terribly often I need to send files over Slack which aren't already stored in some shared storage so I can simply send a link (which also means that access to documents is managed in a single place, generally a good thing). And as for delete/edit, I hardly ever do this. Most of the time people fully well understand me if I mistype something, and there's always the trusty asterisk correction which is faster to type anyways. And one thing IRC does which Slack doesn't is show me who's in the room, which at least gives an indication as to who might have seen my message. Does Slack add more features? Sure, and some of them are pretty great. But is it a revolution over IRC to the point that you sully your mouth by uttering them in the same sentence? Not at all. At the end of the day they are both room-oriented text based communication channels.

damezumari 3y ago
You can see people on Slack channels too, and their presence status if enabled. That said, I wouldn't count on that, as I leave one client always open and in non-away state just to seem that I care about my work. That said, most horrible part about Slack is how more and more closed it is becoming; when there was XMPP bridge you could at least use some non-shitty client (hello, Electron) to interact with it.
breakfastduck 3y ago
"I'd say for 90% of what I do" and there immediately the point is invalid. What you do is not what everyone does.

damezumari 3y ago

I would argue that everything you listed is a bug, not a feature. - Having media in chats is obnoxious; links can be passed along in IRC too (and data, although DCC sucks). - Editing/Deletion of messages actually makes the threads later on harder to understand as someone may have commented on the original message.