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People finally started to realize that they have only one life and wasting half of it to raise another human is wasteful.
by wiseowise 3y ago
People finally started to realize that they have only one life and wasting half of it to raise another human is wasteful.
- HideousKojima 3y agoI wonder how your parents feel about your attitude, lucky for you they didn't share it.
- croes 3y agoHad they, it couldn't matter to him.
- wiseowise 3y agoAre you making some kind of an argument? Because I don’t see it.
- asimovfan 3y agoThis argument does not invalidate the original comment. I think my parents were stupid to have me and could have enjoyed their life better. I think i had two of the top 10 parents worldwide but still, it was a decision made with naivety and stupidity of youth.
- foogazi 3y ago> I think my parents were stupid to have me On what do you base this thought ?
- asimovfan 3y agoThe changes they had to make in their lives to accommodate my existence
- DeathArrow 3y agoJudging only by your comments, I might be tempted to agree. But your parents didn't have a crystal ball at the time they conceived you, so I disagree.
- asimovfan 3y agoThey should have known this was a possibility
- Terr_ 3y agoThat seems like Genetic Fallacy in more ways than one. :p
- midoridensha 3y agoI'm going to assume that you don't work, for instance, as a schoolteacher (probably a safe assumption on this site). How do you think your childhood teachers feel about your attitude (of not being interested in going into the teaching profession)? Lucky for you that they didn't share it, right? How about working in local government, as a mayor or alderman for instance? Did you ever do that? Lucky for you that someone else did, right? Do you feel bad for not doing these jobs that are essential for society?
- HideousKojima 3y agoNone of those other jobs not being filled would have literally kept me from existing, so the comparison seems strange to me. Yes I'm glad someone became a school teacher to teach me, but my not having the same interest doesn't make universal education of young children impossible, only a small percentage of the population needs to teach to enable that. Same for local government and most other jobs. My parents forgoing having children, however, literally makes my existence impossible. And practiced on a society-wide level it ultimately leads to the extinction of the human race. Anyone who thinks that humans are better off pursuing their own fulfillment and enjoyment out of life instead of bearing and raising children is some combination of hedonist, nihilist, and misanthrope. And anyone who promotes such views should be shamed for what they are.
- awb 3y agoMany people enjoy it
- wiseowise 3y agoI never said it’s not enjoyable to some. But raising a human has enormous costs.
- asimovfan 3y agoThey are probably lying (to themselves as well) because of the massive responsibility they feel for the child.
- awb 3y agoMy experience raising kids and the experiences of many parents I know has been very enjoyable and rewarding.
- asimovfan 3y ago"Building better startups. CTO, Consultant & Recruiter. Over 50 IPOs/Exits incl. Palantir, Fiverr, Okta, Elastic, BrightBytes (aq. Google)" I would assume because you had massive amounts of money you could treat raising a child like a recreational activity.. and even then i am betting there is a lot of pink glasses looking in the past involved
- Razengan 3y agoIt could be a communal job like so many others, and indeed as it already is in some cultures.
- midoridensha 3y agoWhich cultures are those? Ancient, tribal cultures, absolutely raised children in a communal way as you say. There's even a saying, "it takes a village to raise a child..." But I'm not aware of any modern cultures that still do that in reality.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y agoVillages and tribes have typically been composed of people who are related to one another. So another way of saying this is that the extended family participates in raising children. Not long ago, children were allowed to roam freely in the neighborhood, walk to and from school, and have some essentially unsupervised time to play and be children. The reason this worked well is because they were known to the neighbors, and at least some of those neighbors were looking out for the children, albeit discreetly and not actively. Me and my sister roamed the neighborhood, and at least one Mom on each block would know who to call if we got into an accident or something. There was a creepy guy who invited us to his hot tub, but my sister wisely turned him down, and nothing more was done. Furthermore, in an extended family, you'll have grandparents to babysit, and cousins who are peers, and in a family with enough children, you'll have older children effectly supervising the youngest ones, changing diapers, doing basic tasks like that. This happens all the time at church, and I see it. It's a matter of Mom and Dad setting good examples and instilling good discipline. If instead you have a situation of high divorce rates, single moms and single dads going it alone, everyone lives in a separate little dwelling, we barely know our extended family, we live in neighborhoods full of strangers, we all work two full-time jobs, well your support system will consist of paid child care, if you can find it, and if you can afford it. So children are high-maintenance. And in a family of one or two children, the children won't be learning the basics of changing diapers and feeding applesauce, so if you do raise children, you're raising children who are unprepared to be parents.
- TheSpiceIsLife 3y agoIncentives. Having children is prohibitively expensive. For example, Australia has like, what is it, 2.1 children for every 1 unit of child day care available. There’s these things called “childcare deserts” - places where childcare isn’t available within a reasonable distance. And a market shortfall of something like a million homes. Don’t blame me, I voted for the other party. Oh wait, they’re greedy landlords too. Oops.