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(I delivered untargeted physical spam in my early teens, a TV guide) Why you think the person who's delivering doesn't have an incentive to listen? They're pa

by avar 3y ago

(I delivered untargeted physical spam in my early teens, a TV guide) Why you think the person who's delivering doesn't have an incentive to listen? They're paid to deliver to N addresses, if they know that X, Y, Z addresses don't want the delivery they're still getting paid for N deliveries. When I did this job looooong ago I'd get a stack of papers, along with a strike-though list of addresses that shouldn't be delivered to, as those people had contacted the publisher. But over the course of doing this job for a summer or two I'd also have people instead ask me to stop delivering in person, which I could use to overlay my own strike-though list at the beginning. Those were much better, as unlike the first list they didn't subtract from the N, free money! Clearly that didn't work for the GP for whatever reason, but I think it should in general. Then again this was a different time, and not even the same continent, YMMV.

Brian_K_White 3y ago
They aren't told to deliver to any specific addresses. This is 100% why they can't actually comply with a request not to deliver. The guy in the truck doesn't have some list of addresses and has no time or capacity to be consulting any such list even if he had one. He has a route and the route is whole streets, and probably has to cover many whole streets every day, and probably gets paid almost nothing for it, and so probably goes to some other job after that every day. Some individual exceptions like remember this house and that house is probably utterly impossible. Their unworkable business model shouldn't be my problem so I'm not excusing them, just saying what the realities probably are.
- avar 3y ago
  In the scenario I described you'll need to consult or maintain such a list anyway. This'll differ by jurastiction, but in most of Europe you're allowed to deliver unrequested advertisements by post, but you're obligated to stop when asked. I'm saying that in my case the paper boy was incentivised to oblige, but not inform the head office. > Some individual exceptions like remember this house and that house is probably utterly impossible. Most people (even the uneducated, or otherwise considered dumb) can remember and sing along to the lyrics of hundreds of songs, and remember the location of hundreds or even thousands of items kept in their house. So even if you're delivering to hundreds of addresses you'll quickly start to remember the exceptions, at least that was my experience.
NegativeK 3y ago
I think both you and the comment above you are assuming that the person on the other side of the phone isn't an ass. If they are, they're likely to make up things about renters and they're likely to be abusive to the person doing the deliveries. I usually try to charitable when interpreting other people's actions, but... There's always a possibility that someone's just mean.

by avar 3y ago

Brian_K_White 3y ago

They aren't told to deliver to any specific addresses. This is 100% why they can't actually comply with a request not to deliver. The guy in the truck doesn't have some list of addresses and has no time or capacity to be consulting any such list even if he had one. He has a route and the route is whole streets, and probably has to cover many whole streets every day, and probably gets paid almost nothing for it, and so probably goes to some other job after that every day. Some individual exceptions like remember this house and that house is probably utterly impossible. Their unworkable business model shouldn't be my problem so I'm not excusing them, just saying what the realities probably are.

avar 3y ago
In the scenario I described you'll need to consult or maintain such a list anyway. This'll differ by jurastiction, but in most of Europe you're allowed to deliver unrequested advertisements by post, but you're obligated to stop when asked. I'm saying that in my case the paper boy was incentivised to oblige, but not inform the head office. > Some individual exceptions like remember this house and that house is probably utterly impossible. Most people (even the uneducated, or otherwise considered dumb) can remember and sing along to the lyrics of hundreds of songs, and remember the location of hundreds or even thousands of items kept in their house. So even if you're delivering to hundreds of addresses you'll quickly start to remember the exceptions, at least that was my experience.

NegativeK 3y ago

I think both you and the comment above you are assuming that the person on the other side of the phone isn't an ass. If they are, they're likely to make up things about renters and they're likely to be abusive to the person doing the deliveries. I usually try to charitable when interpreting other people's actions, but... There's always a possibility that someone's just mean.