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In Netherland mailboxes often have a no/no or yes/no sticker to indicate whether they want to receive free newspapers and junk mail. Deliverers tend to be reaso

by mcv 3y ago

In Netherland mailboxes often have a no/no or yes/no sticker to indicate whether they want to receive free newspapers and junk mail. Deliverers tend to be reasonably good (though not perfect) at obeying these.

SoftTalker 3y ago
In the USA it's illegal for anyone other than the Postal Service to place anything in your mailbox. Technically, they own your mailbox, even though you have to provide it at your expense. That's why they are dumping the advertising on his driveway, and why newspapers often provided a separate box for your newspaper that you mount below or beside your mailbox. I used past tense because we have no local newspaper anymore. If they put this crap in your mailbox, they'd be committing a federal crime and postal inspectors would probably track them down if they got enough complaints.
- blibble 3y ago
  > In the USA it's illegal for anyone other than the Postal Service to place anything in your mailbox. how does this work with outgoing mail?
  - snypher 3y ago
    The law reads something like >statute that prohibited the deposit of unstamped “mailable matter” in a mailbox I assume the outgoing mail, if stamped, is ok. Edit; UPS may even be able to use it if the item has postage paid, but in that case they would just have USPS deliver it.
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    > how does this work with outgoing mail? A more complete (but still not fully so) statement is that it is generally illegal for anyone but you and the postal service to put anything into your mailbox, and it is also generally illegal for anyone but you and the postal service to take anything out.
    - mcv 3y ago
      Sounds like the postal service picks up your mail from your own mailbox? That's completely different from the situation in NL. Here, we post our outgoing mail in big red mailboxes that exist solely for that purpose, but anyone can put stuff in your mailbox, which is usually in your door, so mail arrives on your doormat.
OfSanguineFire 3y ago
I feel like that system has broken down in recent years, since for delivering junk mail, so many refugees have been hired (as an easily exploitable and desperate workforce), who don’t yet have much knowledge of the local culture and how important those stickers are here.
jacquesm 3y ago
I've had to educate a couple of delivery people on the meaning of 'no' but otherwise it has worked very well for me.
anotherevan 3y ago
In Australia we'll have a little no junk mail or no unsolicited mail sign and most box stuffers are good at following that even though there's no legal obligation - except real-estate agents. They suck. I saw one as I was leaving one day who had just left a typical pamphlet in our mailbox. I pointed out the no junk unsolicited sign and he started on how it was important information I may be interested in. I suggested that while that was a nice rationalisation, he knows it's bullshit and he should get his hand off it.

by mcv 3y ago

SoftTalker 3y ago

In the USA it's illegal for anyone other than the Postal Service to place anything in your mailbox. Technically, they own your mailbox, even though you have to provide it at your expense. That's why they are dumping the advertising on his driveway, and why newspapers often provided a separate box for your newspaper that you mount below or beside your mailbox. I used past tense because we have no local newspaper anymore. If they put this crap in your mailbox, they'd be committing a federal crime and postal inspectors would probably track them down if they got enough complaints.

blibble 3y ago
> In the USA it's illegal for anyone other than the Postal Service to place anything in your mailbox. how does this work with outgoing mail?
- snypher 3y ago
  The law reads something like >statute that prohibited the deposit of unstamped “mailable matter” in a mailbox I assume the outgoing mail, if stamped, is ok. Edit; UPS may even be able to use it if the item has postage paid, but in that case they would just have USPS deliver it.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > how does this work with outgoing mail? A more complete (but still not fully so) statement is that it is generally illegal for anyone but you and the postal service to put anything into your mailbox, and it is also generally illegal for anyone but you and the postal service to take anything out.
  - mcv 3y ago
    Sounds like the postal service picks up your mail from your own mailbox? That's completely different from the situation in NL. Here, we post our outgoing mail in big red mailboxes that exist solely for that purpose, but anyone can put stuff in your mailbox, which is usually in your door, so mail arrives on your doormat.

OfSanguineFire 3y ago

I feel like that system has broken down in recent years, since for delivering junk mail, so many refugees have been hired (as an easily exploitable and desperate workforce), who don’t yet have much knowledge of the local culture and how important those stickers are here.

jacquesm 3y ago

I've had to educate a couple of delivery people on the meaning of 'no' but otherwise it has worked very well for me.

anotherevan 3y ago

In Australia we'll have a little no junk mail or no unsolicited mail sign and most box stuffers are good at following that even though there's no legal obligation - except real-estate agents. They suck. I saw one as I was leaving one day who had just left a typical pamphlet in our mailbox. I pointed out the no junk unsolicited sign and he started on how it was important information I may be interested in. I suggested that while that was a nice rationalisation, he knows it's bullshit and he should get his hand off it.