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Gruber likes every Apple product, even the ones that aren't doing well (such as Ping and Safari for Windows), and, moreover, liked every Apple product even when

by ootachi 15y ago

Gruber likes every Apple product, even the ones that aren't doing well (such as Ping and Safari for Windows), and, moreover, liked every Apple product even when Apple as a whole wasn't doing well. Gruber's opinions of Apple products (always positive) don't correlate particularly well with their products' market performance (usually positive as of late, but varied).

halostatue 15y ago
Demonstrably false. I'm not going to bother digging through his archives to prove this (it wouldn't take much to do, but you're not actually arguing against Gruber as much as your skewed conception of Gruber), but I'm fairly certain that Gruber's reaction to Ping is "confusion" (at best) to "dislike" (at worst), not like. It's not hard to find cases where Gruber has had a negative reaction to something that Apple has done, or where he's said something negative about an Apple product.
- ootachi 15y ago
  I actually did do research before posting. He was excited about the possibilities of Ping: http://daringfireball.net/2010/09/how_ping_might_grow http://daringfireball.net/2010/09/how_ping_might_grow That's close enough to "liked Ping" in my book. Obviously, Gruber doesn't like every little thing about every Apple product. But I'm pretty sure it's not an exaggeration to say that he likes every Apple product.
- jkubicek 15y ago
  Agreed. Gruber is consistently ambivalent about Ping. http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=site:daringfireball.net+ping&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=... There's no evidence he's ever used Safari (or iTunes, for that matter) for Windows. Gruber is also consistently down on Apple for their opaque and arbitrary App Store policies, especially when they hamstring potentially great apps. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gruber/6648080689/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/gruber/6648080689/in/photostrea...

by ootachi 15y ago

halostatue 15y ago

Demonstrably false. I'm not going to bother digging through his archives to prove this (it wouldn't take much to do, but you're not actually arguing against Gruber as much as your skewed conception of Gruber), but I'm fairly certain that Gruber's reaction to Ping is "confusion" (at best) to "dislike" (at worst), not like. It's not hard to find cases where Gruber has had a negative reaction to something that Apple has done, or where he's said something negative about an Apple product.

ootachi 15y ago
I actually did do research before posting. He was excited about the possibilities of Ping: http://daringfireball.net/2010/09/how_ping_might_grow http://daringfireball.net/2010/09/how_ping_might_grow That's close enough to "liked Ping" in my book. Obviously, Gruber doesn't like every little thing about every Apple product. But I'm pretty sure it's not an exaggeration to say that he likes every Apple product.
jkubicek 15y ago
Agreed. Gruber is consistently ambivalent about Ping. http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=site:daringfireball.net+ping&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=... There's no evidence he's ever used Safari (or iTunes, for that matter) for Windows. Gruber is also consistently down on Apple for their opaque and arbitrary App Store policies, especially when they hamstring potentially great apps. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gruber/6648080689/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/gruber/6648080689/in/photostrea...