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Too bad the dude is the epitome of an unreliable narrator. Last year's discussion got some interesting links... Most notable: https://old.reddit.com/r/suse/com

by brohee 3y ago

Too bad the dude is the epitome of an unreliable narrator. Last year's discussion got some interesting links... Most notable: https://old.reddit.com/r/suse/comments/umfyku/the_time_suse_the_german_linux_company_banned/ https://old.reddit.com/r/suse/comments/umfyku/the_time_suse_...

woodruffw 3y ago
I don't know anything about him. Why do you say that he's an unreliable narrator? The story was emotive, but no more emotive than I'd expect for someone in his position. Edit: This guy has some pretty toxic politics, and I wouldn't want him in my workplace. That being said, it looks like Reddit might be confused about Jewish holidays: SUSECON 2017 appears to have run between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, like he said. That is indeed a holy week, and scheduling a conference during it is roughly analogous to scheduling a conference between Christmas and New Years'. But I don't think they did that intentionally; it's just unfortunate timing.
- em-bee 3y ago
  in germany most multi-day grassroots events are scheduled between christmas and newyear, most famously the CCC. because that is the time when people are most likely free even if they have a job, and those days expressly do not have any religious significance. but any weekend that is extended with a mostly religious holiday is used as opportunity for many groups.
  - woodruffw 3y ago
    As an outsider, I wouldn't have considered SUSECon to be a "grassroots event." It seems like a corporate conference to me, and it's historically been hosted outside of Germany (including in places like the US). (This doesn't mean I buy this guy's story; I don't.)
    - em-bee 3y ago
      i didn't mean to include SUSEs choice here, just for comparison, that in germany the days been christmans and newyear are generally not respected, but also that they need not be because they are not religious holidays, in contrast to the jewish holidays which are.
riffic 3y ago
more on reddit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31348567 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31348567
- cyxxon 3y ago
  Inlucind a link to this collection of screenshots of his posts on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LundukeFacts https://twitter.com/LundukeFacts
  - nailer 3y ago
    Most of the posts seem to be confusing 'conservative' or 'concerned about vaccines' with 'unreliable narrator'.
    - brohee 3y ago
      Well he definitely misrepresented the conference taking place during Kippur.
      - evanelias 3y ago
        No, this isn't a clear misrepresentation. Like all Jewish holidays, Yom Kippur begins in the evening. In 2017, it began the evening of September 29. Information that I can find on SUSECON 2017 lists it as being September 25-29. Granted, the last day of a conference almost always ends prior to the evening. However, it is completely unreasonable to require a religious Jewish person to be traveling after a conference on Erev Yom Kippur. Imagine your employer holding a mandatory conference, in a foreign country, concluding on the afternoon of December 24... and then arguing that it doesn't overlap with Christmas.

by brohee 3y ago

woodruffw 3y ago

I don't know anything about him. Why do you say that he's an unreliable narrator? The story was emotive, but no more emotive than I'd expect for someone in his position. Edit: This guy has some pretty toxic politics, and I wouldn't want him in my workplace. That being said, it looks like Reddit might be confused about Jewish holidays: SUSECON 2017 appears to have run between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, like he said. That is indeed a holy week, and scheduling a conference during it is roughly analogous to scheduling a conference between Christmas and New Years'. But I don't think they did that intentionally; it's just unfortunate timing.

em-bee 3y ago
in germany most multi-day grassroots events are scheduled between christmas and newyear, most famously the CCC. because that is the time when people are most likely free even if they have a job, and those days expressly do not have any religious significance. but any weekend that is extended with a mostly religious holiday is used as opportunity for many groups.
- woodruffw 3y ago
  As an outsider, I wouldn't have considered SUSECon to be a "grassroots event." It seems like a corporate conference to me, and it's historically been hosted outside of Germany (including in places like the US). (This doesn't mean I buy this guy's story; I don't.)
  - em-bee 3y ago
    i didn't mean to include SUSEs choice here, just for comparison, that in germany the days been christmans and newyear are generally not respected, but also that they need not be because they are not religious holidays, in contrast to the jewish holidays which are.

riffic 3y ago

more on reddit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31348567 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31348567

cyxxon 3y ago
Inlucind a link to this collection of screenshots of his posts on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LundukeFacts https://twitter.com/LundukeFacts
- nailer 3y ago
  Most of the posts seem to be confusing 'conservative' or 'concerned about vaccines' with 'unreliable narrator'.
  - brohee 3y ago
    Well he definitely misrepresented the conference taking place during Kippur.
    - evanelias 3y ago
      No, this isn't a clear misrepresentation. Like all Jewish holidays, Yom Kippur begins in the evening. In 2017, it began the evening of September 29. Information that I can find on SUSECON 2017 lists it as being September 25-29. Granted, the last day of a conference almost always ends prior to the evening. However, it is completely unreasonable to require a religious Jewish person to be traveling after a conference on Erev Yom Kippur. Imagine your employer holding a mandatory conference, in a foreign country, concluding on the afternoon of December 24... and then arguing that it doesn't overlap with Christmas.