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> I am not a litigious man. I operate under the simple notion that sunlight is the best disinfectant. Bryan, you should have sued them when this was made obvio

> I am not a litigious man. I operate under the simple notion that sunlight is the best disinfectant. Bryan, you should have sued them when this was made obvious. The law is on your side. Sunlight is good and all, but for many businesses, a lawsuit is the only thing that will get them to change their minds.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>you should have sued them IANL, but suing for this kind of discrimination doesn't get you very far in Germany. It's not like in the US, or the UK, where at the slightest whiff of discrimination you take your employer to court and become a milionare. German law doesn't entitle you to big money for your emotional suffering, at most the company would have gotten a fine for antisemitism. You need to bring proof of actual monetary damage you suffered for it to be a case in Germany for you get any compensation, otherwise the judge is just gonna throw the case out of the court. The German legal system is very different that in the US, and often not in a good way. Also, building a strong case again Suse with hard evidence, would been tough for him I imagine, getting witnesses willing to speak up, etc., and also, the courts move slow in Germany and the legal fees of playing a long game against such a large company can easily bankrupt an individual, that it becomes a no-go from the start. I've seen it often in Germany where big companies just get away with bullying small companies or individuals despite being in the wrong, simply because they have deep pockets for lengthy court battles and you don't. So yes, like you say, technically the law is on your side, but like in many cases, you can end up dying on a hill penniless, with the law on your side. Edit: I don't want to jump to his defense or on the Suse hate bandwagon since we only heard his side of the story, and so far, there seem to be some evidence to suggest the plaintiff is a bit of whacko, and if he brought his toxic views at the workplace I can see why he got pushed out. Vocal political and social activism of any kind isn't tolerated at the workplace in Germany, so if you start bringing that shit at work (regardless if it's right or left wing), you will be pushed out, and for good reason.
- yellowapple 3y ago
  SUSE has an American presence last I checked; would that not subject them to American discrimination laws?
  - mschuster91 3y ago
    Depends if your employment contract is with the German or American entity.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

>you should have sued them IANL, but suing for this kind of discrimination doesn't get you very far in Germany. It's not like in the US, or the UK, where at the slightest whiff of discrimination you take your employer to court and become a milionare. German law doesn't entitle you to big money for your emotional suffering, at most the company would have gotten a fine for antisemitism. You need to bring proof of actual monetary damage you suffered for it to be a case in Germany for you get any compensation, otherwise the judge is just gonna throw the case out of the court. The German legal system is very different that in the US, and often not in a good way. Also, building a strong case again Suse with hard evidence, would been tough for him I imagine, getting witnesses willing to speak up, etc., and also, the courts move slow in Germany and the legal fees of playing a long game against such a large company can easily bankrupt an individual, that it becomes a no-go from the start. I've seen it often in Germany where big companies just get away with bullying small companies or individuals despite being in the wrong, simply because they have deep pockets for lengthy court battles and you don't. So yes, like you say, technically the law is on your side, but like in many cases, you can end up dying on a hill penniless, with the law on your side. Edit: I don't want to jump to his defense or on the Suse hate bandwagon since we only heard his side of the story, and so far, there seem to be some evidence to suggest the plaintiff is a bit of whacko, and if he brought his toxic views at the workplace I can see why he got pushed out. Vocal political and social activism of any kind isn't tolerated at the workplace in Germany, so if you start bringing that shit at work (regardless if it's right or left wing), you will be pushed out, and for good reason.

yellowapple 3y ago
SUSE has an American presence last I checked; would that not subject them to American discrimination laws?
- mschuster91 3y ago
  Depends if your employment contract is with the German or American entity.