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Or like every 2D platformer ever?

by matsemann 3y ago

jncfhnb 3y ago
Not quite. It’s pretty rare to be jumping off and standing on top of moving physics objects in 2D platformers. Like in Mario almost everything you can stand on is static or following a fixed movement pattern.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
  I'm also wracking my brain for this situation in one of the many metroidvanias I've played. There are many which let the player freeze enemies so they can be used as platforms but the enemies are also not moving by that point. The most likely I can think of is Axiom Verge, which has a mechanism for "glitching" enemies that might allow for a non-frozen enemy to be used as a platform while it continues to follow the player character around. I'm not totally familiar with how each enemy glitches so it's only "likely" in the sense that I don't know it's definitely not possible.
  - jncfhnb 3y ago
    Physics objects are generally poor fits for 2D platformers. They’re random which betrays slick level design (and endangers sequence breaks in some games). They probably fall too fast to interact with. They potentially accumulate. 2D platformer characters tend to not experience physics aside from gravity to begin with and sliding momentum as they usually cannot rotate and don’t expect to encounter forces from collisions. Can Mario fall into a thrown ice block and acquire its velocity while it’s moving midair without pushing the block down? I think he can technically. But it doesn’t show up as something you should expect to interact with. Maybe sliding along a surface but that’s barely a physics object.
- mitthrowaway2 3y ago
  Megaman X has an ice-skateboard that you can summon and then ride.
  - jncfhnb 3y ago
    Could you find a video or reference to this? I can’t recall it.
    - mitthrowaway2 3y ago
      https://youtube.com/shorts/qm5M0bt8VVI https://youtube.com/shorts/qm5M0bt8VVI My apologies that it's a youtube short. I couldn't find any better video.

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Or like every 2D platformer ever?

by matsemann 3y ago

Or like every 2D platformer ever?

jncfhnb 3y ago
Not quite. It’s pretty rare to be jumping off and standing on top of moving physics objects in 2D platformers. Like in Mario almost everything you can stand on is static or following a fixed movement pattern.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
  I'm also wracking my brain for this situation in one of the many metroidvanias I've played. There are many which let the player freeze enemies so they can be used as platforms but the enemies are also not moving by that point. The most likely I can think of is Axiom Verge, which has a mechanism for "glitching" enemies that might allow for a non-frozen enemy to be used as a platform while it continues to follow the player character around. I'm not totally familiar with how each enemy glitches so it's only "likely" in the sense that I don't know it's definitely not possible.
  - jncfhnb 3y ago
    Physics objects are generally poor fits for 2D platformers. They’re random which betrays slick level design (and endangers sequence breaks in some games). They probably fall too fast to interact with. They potentially accumulate. 2D platformer characters tend to not experience physics aside from gravity to begin with and sliding momentum as they usually cannot rotate and don’t expect to encounter forces from collisions. Can Mario fall into a thrown ice block and acquire its velocity while it’s moving midair without pushing the block down? I think he can technically. But it doesn’t show up as something you should expect to interact with. Maybe sliding along a surface but that’s barely a physics object.
- mitthrowaway2 3y ago
  Megaman X has an ice-skateboard that you can summon and then ride.
  - jncfhnb 3y ago
    Could you find a video or reference to this? I can’t recall it.
    - mitthrowaway2 3y ago
      https://youtube.com/shorts/qm5M0bt8VVI https://youtube.com/shorts/qm5M0bt8VVI My apologies that it's a youtube short. I couldn't find any better video.