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It sounds reasonable but people said the same thing 5 years ago. What year will I see the legacy automakers utilize their advantages to sell more electric vehic

It sounds reasonable but people said the same thing 5 years ago. What year will I see the legacy automakers utilize their advantages to sell more electric vehicles than Tesla? I actually feel in 5 more years people will be saying the legacy automakers never had a chance because they were too set in their ways.

andjd 3y ago
> What year will I see the legacy automakers utilize their advantages to sell more electric vehicles than Tesla? <troll>Ford is selling thousands of F150 EVs a month. How many Cybertrucks has Tesla sold?</troll>
- labcomputer 3y ago
  Yes, yet another promise that Elon broke!
piva00 3y ago
5 years ago major automakers didn't have full lineups of EVs already in production. Now they have, it's heavy industry, not tech, things take a while to R&D and ramp-up to full-scale production. Now there is full-scale production from multiple manufacturers, it only gets easier from here, maybe another 5 years is a good waiting time to see clear trends emerging.
TacticalCoder 3y ago
> What year will I see the legacy automakers utilize their advantages to sell more electric vehicles than Tesla? The EU was supposed to vote for the end of the sale of any ICE vehicle by 2035. I don't know where the final vote is but several manufacturers, including Mercedes, already said they'd stop producing ICE before 2035. It is coming. I'm in the EU and I do see 100% EV cars from the VW group on the road, just as I see 100% EV BMWs. And they're not all stuck on the side road or I'd see them. I think it's really a bit early to call all these legacy carmakers dead.
another2another 3y ago
'legacy automakers' have been making EVs and Hybrids for years, and even long before Tesla was a thing (I've been to Geneva motor show enough times to have seen them). What they have been doing is milking their petrol & diesel markets for as long as they possibly can. Why cannibalize your existing market for EVs when you're still selling plenty of the old cars, until you have no other choice? Once they can't make money off petrol anymore, those companies will very quickly pivot to EVs and are currently more than technically capable of doing so. And they'll say 'thank you very much Elon for educating the public in what it means to be an EV owner, and what infrastructure is needed to support them. We'll take over from here'.

andjd 3y ago

> What year will I see the legacy automakers utilize their advantages to sell more electric vehicles than Tesla? <troll>Ford is selling thousands of F150 EVs a month. How many Cybertrucks has Tesla sold?</troll>

labcomputer 3y ago
Yes, yet another promise that Elon broke!

piva00 3y ago

5 years ago major automakers didn't have full lineups of EVs already in production. Now they have, it's heavy industry, not tech, things take a while to R&D and ramp-up to full-scale production. Now there is full-scale production from multiple manufacturers, it only gets easier from here, maybe another 5 years is a good waiting time to see clear trends emerging.

TacticalCoder 3y ago

> What year will I see the legacy automakers utilize their advantages to sell more electric vehicles than Tesla? The EU was supposed to vote for the end of the sale of any ICE vehicle by 2035. I don't know where the final vote is but several manufacturers, including Mercedes, already said they'd stop producing ICE before 2035. It is coming. I'm in the EU and I do see 100% EV cars from the VW group on the road, just as I see 100% EV BMWs. And they're not all stuck on the side road or I'd see them. I think it's really a bit early to call all these legacy carmakers dead.

another2another 3y ago

'legacy automakers' have been making EVs and Hybrids for years, and even long before Tesla was a thing (I've been to Geneva motor show enough times to have seen them). What they have been doing is milking their petrol & diesel markets for as long as they possibly can. Why cannibalize your existing market for EVs when you're still selling plenty of the old cars, until you have no other choice? Once they can't make money off petrol anymore, those companies will very quickly pivot to EVs and are currently more than technically capable of doing so. And they'll say 'thank you very much Elon for educating the public in what it means to be an EV owner, and what infrastructure is needed to support them. We'll take over from here'.