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Even in 2021, most of Amazon Retail’s workloads were “serverless” and the entire platform was actively flipping to Graviton one cluster at a time.

Vt71fcAqt7 3y ago
How do you know? Is there a link I could read about this? I've heard Amazon.com doesn't even use AWS — was this ever acurate?
- PNewling 3y ago
  >I've heard Amazon.com doesn't even use AWS — was this ever acurate? What? AWS spun out of Amazon.com having extra servers/infa after the holiday season rush and pushed for an internal way to monetize their extra compute/storage power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Web_Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Web_Services https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/amazon/ https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/amazon/
  - inemesitaffia 3y ago
    It's a creation myth/legend IIRC
  - Vt71fcAqt7 3y ago
    I've read that they did use it for some time then stopped. People then took AWS to be "Amazon Scale" despite not being true/misleading.[0] If I'm reading it right, even your own link only says they are using s3 for backing up their database. See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4181014 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4181014 [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33024415 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33024415
- yazaddaruvala 3y ago
  I worked there for 10 years. Sure, when AWS was created Amazon.com didn’t use it. However today, Amazon.com is built entirely on AWS. It has been using EC2 and S3 since at least around 2010 (by 2013 “legacy hardware” was almost non-existent). Until 2020, it was all “hidden” behind Amazon’s internal tooling. Around 2019 there started to be a big push to just use AWS directly ie teams get AWS accounts owned by the Amazon.com org. There is still internal tooling to hook the code repo, build systems, and “pipelines” to directly deploy to AWS resources. Meanwhile, the “serverless” I was talking about in the previous post was an internal service that hosts a Lisp dialect called Datapath. As a developer, you write some Datapath and give them the money and it executes as much as you need it to. This service is the core of Amazon.com and was actively being migrated to Graviton.

Vt71fcAqt7 3y ago

How do you know? Is there a link I could read about this? I've heard Amazon.com doesn't even use AWS — was this ever acurate?

PNewling 3y ago
>I've heard Amazon.com doesn't even use AWS — was this ever acurate? What? AWS spun out of Amazon.com having extra servers/infa after the holiday season rush and pushed for an internal way to monetize their extra compute/storage power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Web_Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Web_Services https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/amazon/ https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/amazon/
- inemesitaffia 3y ago
  It's a creation myth/legend IIRC
- Vt71fcAqt7 3y ago
  I've read that they did use it for some time then stopped. People then took AWS to be "Amazon Scale" despite not being true/misleading.[0] If I'm reading it right, even your own link only says they are using s3 for backing up their database. See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4181014 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4181014 [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33024415 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33024415
yazaddaruvala 3y ago
I worked there for 10 years. Sure, when AWS was created Amazon.com didn’t use it. However today, Amazon.com is built entirely on AWS. It has been using EC2 and S3 since at least around 2010 (by 2013 “legacy hardware” was almost non-existent). Until 2020, it was all “hidden” behind Amazon’s internal tooling. Around 2019 there started to be a big push to just use AWS directly ie teams get AWS accounts owned by the Amazon.com org. There is still internal tooling to hook the code repo, build systems, and “pipelines” to directly deploy to AWS resources. Meanwhile, the “serverless” I was talking about in the previous post was an internal service that hosts a Lisp dialect called Datapath. As a developer, you write some Datapath and give them the money and it executes as much as you need it to. This service is the core of Amazon.com and was actively being migrated to Graviton.