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The Mexico example was long range weapons. If Chinese missiles were hitting American cities from Mexico (outside of the localized fighting), do you believe that

The Mexico example was long range weapons. If Chinese missiles were hitting American cities from Mexico (outside of the localized fighting), do you believe that has the possibility to escalate?

flohofwoe 3y ago
Maybe, but I can give a much more concrete example: Russia has nukes on Europe's doorstep in Kaliningrad which can reach Berlin in a couple of minutes, do you hear anybody in Germany, Europe or NATO whine about "escalation"?
- cpursley 3y ago
  Can you break this down? I don't follow.
  - flohofwoe 3y ago
    TL;DR: Russia has Iskander missiles stationed in their Kaliningrad exclave (former Koenigsberg if Kaliningrad doesn't ring a bell), Iskander missiles can carry nuclear warheads and have a range of 500 km which is just enough to reach Berlin. Now add two and two together. Why would Russia station nuclear capable missiles in the middle of Europe without the nuclear warheads nearby?
    - cpursley 3y ago
      I'm very aware of Kaliningrad and it's history. I don't understand your point. How does it relate to my analogy of a neighbor of America getting armed and trained by a sworn and bellicose enemy of America who states openly that it's goal is American regime change and geopolitical breakup. Under this scenario, I suspect the US would roll into Mexico and end that sooner than later under the Monroe Doctrine due to the real (or perceived) existential threat. At least, I would hope so - Mexico being in a military alliance with China (and it's 2000 or so mile border) would be not good.
      - flohofwoe 3y ago
        Russia's stated goal (according to Dmitri Medvedev, former president and now "Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation") is also to "build a united Eurasia from Vladivostok to Lisbon", yet it is very unlikely that any European nation would preemptively invade Kaliningrad over those existential threats. Also, Mexico entering a military alliance with China is extremely far fetched, how did you even arrive at that idea?

The Mexico example was long range weapons. If Chinese missiles were hitting American cities from Mexico (outside of the localized fighting), do you believe that has the possibility to escalate?

flohofwoe 3y ago

Maybe, but I can give a much more concrete example: Russia has nukes on Europe's doorstep in Kaliningrad which can reach Berlin in a couple of minutes, do you hear anybody in Germany, Europe or NATO whine about "escalation"?

cpursley 3y ago
Can you break this down? I don't follow.
- flohofwoe 3y ago
  TL;DR: Russia has Iskander missiles stationed in their Kaliningrad exclave (former Koenigsberg if Kaliningrad doesn't ring a bell), Iskander missiles can carry nuclear warheads and have a range of 500 km which is just enough to reach Berlin. Now add two and two together. Why would Russia station nuclear capable missiles in the middle of Europe without the nuclear warheads nearby?
  - cpursley 3y ago
    I'm very aware of Kaliningrad and it's history. I don't understand your point. How does it relate to my analogy of a neighbor of America getting armed and trained by a sworn and bellicose enemy of America who states openly that it's goal is American regime change and geopolitical breakup. Under this scenario, I suspect the US would roll into Mexico and end that sooner than later under the Monroe Doctrine due to the real (or perceived) existential threat. At least, I would hope so - Mexico being in a military alliance with China (and it's 2000 or so mile border) would be not good.
    - flohofwoe 3y ago
      Russia's stated goal (according to Dmitri Medvedev, former president and now "Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation") is also to "build a united Eurasia from Vladivostok to Lisbon", yet it is very unlikely that any European nation would preemptively invade Kaliningrad over those existential threats. Also, Mexico entering a military alliance with China is extremely far fetched, how did you even arrive at that idea?