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Like with the Arizona fab question where will they find the skilled workers? Putting up four walls and a roof, with some chip fabbing equipment doesn't make an

Like with the Arizona fab question where will they find the skilled workers? Putting up four walls and a roof, with some chip fabbing equipment doesn't make an efficient fabrication location. When you have American TSMC worker complain about long shift hours i imaging it wouldn't be any better in Europe for TSMC. This feels more like TSMC grabbing from subsidies pots where it can hoping this will please the NATO nations and that TSMC hopefully survive long enough te reenter the mainland again on time before the mainland goes completely domestic with chips fabrication.

flohofwoe 3y ago
Dresden is already a major microelectronics hub in Europe (and has been for over 50 years), and Germany traditionally has a good vocational training system. Of course - as everywhere - the German industry always cries about not finding enough skilled workers, but what they actually mean is they don't find enough skilled workers at the wages they want to pay, but "the market will take care of that" ;)
dukeyukey 3y ago
The population of _all_ of Arizona is only 7.2 million. Just within 100km of Dresden you've got 5 million. Add in a much easier, faster immigration policy (esepcially from the rest of Europe) and a higher (although still not high) unemployment rate and they're probably gonna have an easier time of it than Arizone does.
- cdash 3y ago
  Not sure how the state population is relevant, the vast majority of people living in Arizona live in the Phoenix metropolitan area which is where these new fabs are being built. The population size for that area is also around 5 million. Also, how is immigration between countries in Europe easier than immigration between states in the US. That is simply not possible when the US has no language/cultural barriers.
knallfrosch 3y ago
Dresden is already home to Globalfoundries, Bosch and Infineon.
- MaxPro91 3y ago
  And NXP too (albeit relatively small site)

flohofwoe 3y ago

Dresden is already a major microelectronics hub in Europe (and has been for over 50 years), and Germany traditionally has a good vocational training system. Of course - as everywhere - the German industry always cries about not finding enough skilled workers, but what they actually mean is they don't find enough skilled workers at the wages they want to pay, but "the market will take care of that" ;)

dukeyukey 3y ago

The population of _all_ of Arizona is only 7.2 million. Just within 100km of Dresden you've got 5 million. Add in a much easier, faster immigration policy (esepcially from the rest of Europe) and a higher (although still not high) unemployment rate and they're probably gonna have an easier time of it than Arizone does.

cdash 3y ago
Not sure how the state population is relevant, the vast majority of people living in Arizona live in the Phoenix metropolitan area which is where these new fabs are being built. The population size for that area is also around 5 million. Also, how is immigration between countries in Europe easier than immigration between states in the US. That is simply not possible when the US has no language/cultural barriers.

knallfrosch 3y ago

Dresden is already home to Globalfoundries, Bosch and Infineon.

MaxPro91 3y ago
And NXP too (albeit relatively small site)