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My kids excelled during Covid. Why? My first grader got thru 4th grade math by summer after Covid started. My 6th grader finished high school world history.

by jml78 3y ago

My kids excelled during Covid. Why? My first grader got thru 4th grade math by summer after Covid started. My 6th grader finished high school world history. My opinion is that you are being overly dramatic. We actually kept our kids out of school even when school allowed kids back in person. Mostly due to the fact my wife is immunocompromised. My rising 5th grader is ahead of where his brother was going into 5th grade and my rising 9th grader is ahead of where most 9th graders are. All because of Covid happening.

infamouscow 3y ago
> The pandemic has had devastating impacts on learning https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-pandemic-has-had-devastating-impacts-on-learning-what-will-it-take-to-help-students-catch-up/ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-pandemic-has-had-deva... > Nine-year-olds lost the equivalent of two decades of progress in math and reading, according to an authoritative national test. Fourth and eighth graders also recorded sweeping declines, particularly in math, with eighth-grade scores falling in 49 of 50 states. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/28/briefing/pandemic-learning-loss.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/28/briefing/pandemic-learnin... > By the spring of 2022, according to our calculations, the average student was half a year behind in math and a third of a year behind in reading. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/05/11/opinion/pandemic-learning-losses-steep-but-not-permanent.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/05/11/opinion/pande... > Students “lost out on about 35% of a normal school year’s worth of learning” when in-person learning stopped during the public health crisis, according to a paper published Monday in the journal Nature Human Behaviour. https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/30/health/covid-learning-loss-study-wellness/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/30/health/covid-learning-loss-st...
- jml78 3y ago
  And you obviously don’t think kids can’t recover or excel. Kids are resilient
  - freedude 3y ago
    Their resiliency isn't the issue. The issue is the harm caused by an unnecessary social experiment. The fact is some won't recover as well as others.
    - jml78 3y ago
      It must be nice to live in a world where you judge actions with perfect vision of what science will say 3 years after the fact.
      - infamouscow 3y ago
        Holy hell. I'm not even sure what to make of this. If you need scientific evidence to know a priori rapidly transitioning K-12 in person education to remote learning would lead to catastrophic consequences, you need to go back to school yourself. You don't get to push people down and trample over them just because you were afraid when the fire alarm went off.
        jml78 3y ago
        This isn’t Reddit. “Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity” Those are just some of the rules here.
        infamouscow 3y ago
        Continuing to move goal posts rather than conceding and completely ignoring the links provided which refute your argument are indications this is not a productive discussion and suggest you're arguing in bad faith. Instead of replying to points, you're trying to distract from the lack of argument by referring to the rules. You can do both, but choose not to.

by jml78 3y ago

infamouscow 3y ago

> The pandemic has had devastating impacts on learning https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-pandemic-has-had-devastating-impacts-on-learning-what-will-it-take-to-help-students-catch-up/ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-pandemic-has-had-deva... > Nine-year-olds lost the equivalent of two decades of progress in math and reading, according to an authoritative national test. Fourth and eighth graders also recorded sweeping declines, particularly in math, with eighth-grade scores falling in 49 of 50 states. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/28/briefing/pandemic-learning-loss.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/28/briefing/pandemic-learnin... > By the spring of 2022, according to our calculations, the average student was half a year behind in math and a third of a year behind in reading. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/05/11/opinion/pandemic-learning-losses-steep-but-not-permanent.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/05/11/opinion/pande... > Students “lost out on about 35% of a normal school year’s worth of learning” when in-person learning stopped during the public health crisis, according to a paper published Monday in the journal Nature Human Behaviour. https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/30/health/covid-learning-loss-study-wellness/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/30/health/covid-learning-loss-st...

jml78 3y ago
And you obviously don’t think kids can’t recover or excel. Kids are resilient
- freedude 3y ago
  Their resiliency isn't the issue. The issue is the harm caused by an unnecessary social experiment. The fact is some won't recover as well as others.
  - jml78 3y ago
    It must be nice to live in a world where you judge actions with perfect vision of what science will say 3 years after the fact.
    - infamouscow 3y ago
      Holy hell. I'm not even sure what to make of this. If you need scientific evidence to know a priori rapidly transitioning K-12 in person education to remote learning would lead to catastrophic consequences, you need to go back to school yourself. You don't get to push people down and trample over them just because you were afraid when the fire alarm went off.
      - jml78 3y ago
        This isn’t Reddit. “Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity” Those are just some of the rules here.
        infamouscow 3y ago
        Continuing to move goal posts rather than conceding and completely ignoring the links provided which refute your argument are indications this is not a productive discussion and suggest you're arguing in bad faith. Instead of replying to points, you're trying to distract from the lack of argument by referring to the rules. You can do both, but choose not to.