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Isn't this a rampant problem across Europe thought? I went on a beach vacation with some French friends and was sort of stunned/apalled at the sort of non-stop

Isn't this a rampant problem across Europe thought? I went on a beach vacation with some French friends and was sort of stunned/apalled at the sort of non-stop "it is all the muslim/immigrants" fault talk.

lillecarl 3y ago
In Europe it's the muslims, in the US it's the mexicans, in $place it's $group. French people are known to be rather nationalist though (In the same way US Americans are), but a rampant problem? I have to disagree, it's just like the rest of the world, people need their scapegoat.
throwaway2037 3y ago
What is this comment down voted? I think that the post makes a valid point. Not speaking about France, but I am always stunned when people think that they can make obviously Islamophobic comments in front of me. I always try to push back, but they regularly push back harder. I'm tired of it. It is bizarre, anti-social behaviour in 2023. I guess that during the 1930s in some of parts of Europe were similar for Jews/Romani. "Normal" daily discrimination was a way of life. To be fair, the social and economic divisions between white French natives and immigrants is large. There is a excellent article in Financial Times about it: <<French riots show how entrenched inequalities have become / The gulf between immigrants and those born in the country is larger than in almost any other developed nation>>: https://www.ft.com/content/25eda9f0-8bd3-41e1-948c-89cc7c0ec66e https://www.ft.com/content/25eda9f0-8bd3-41e1-948c-89cc7c0ec... The solution is to keep talking about it, and continue studying the issue.
- sebastianz 3y ago
  > I guess that during the 1930s in some of parts of Europe were similar for Jews/Romani. "Normal" daily discrimination was a way of life. 1930s? How about 2023 :)
  - throwaway2037 3y ago
    Oh, come on. Are you trolling me? Do you really think that Jews and Romani are facing "normal" daily discrimination _in the same way_ as the 1930s? I beg to differ.

lillecarl 3y ago

In Europe it's the muslims, in the US it's the mexicans, in $place it's $group. French people are known to be rather nationalist though (In the same way US Americans are), but a rampant problem? I have to disagree, it's just like the rest of the world, people need their scapegoat.

throwaway2037 3y ago

What is this comment down voted? I think that the post makes a valid point. Not speaking about France, but I am always stunned when people think that they can make obviously Islamophobic comments in front of me. I always try to push back, but they regularly push back harder. I'm tired of it. It is bizarre, anti-social behaviour in 2023. I guess that during the 1930s in some of parts of Europe were similar for Jews/Romani. "Normal" daily discrimination was a way of life. To be fair, the social and economic divisions between white French natives and immigrants is large. There is a excellent article in Financial Times about it: <<French riots show how entrenched inequalities have become / The gulf between immigrants and those born in the country is larger than in almost any other developed nation>>: https://www.ft.com/content/25eda9f0-8bd3-41e1-948c-89cc7c0ec66e https://www.ft.com/content/25eda9f0-8bd3-41e1-948c-89cc7c0ec... The solution is to keep talking about it, and continue studying the issue.

sebastianz 3y ago
> I guess that during the 1930s in some of parts of Europe were similar for Jews/Romani. "Normal" daily discrimination was a way of life. 1930s? How about 2023 :)
- throwaway2037 3y ago
  Oh, come on. Are you trolling me? Do you really think that Jews and Romani are facing "normal" daily discrimination _in the same way_ as the 1930s? I beg to differ.