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So, my take after reading the article is that all the climate change alarmists and all the climate change deniers just had any arguments for why they are right
by MR4D 3y ago
So, my take after reading the article is that all the climate change alarmists and all the climate change deniers just had any arguments for why they are right and the other side wrong blown wide open by a pesky volcano that will change the atmosphere in a way nobody had predicted the day before that volcano erupted.
We live in interesting times indeed.
- paprzplz 3y ago[dead]
- smackeyacky 3y agoNo. That's not what is happening here - we have made the planet more vulnerable to these events by changing the climate otherwise this eruption would have simply been situation normal. Now it is going to cause us problems. The alarmists in this case are on the right side of history.
- lazide 3y agoEruptions on that scale have always caused major shifts in global weather and sometimes resulted in unexpected catastrophes far, far away from the eruption. [https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/learn/sensing-our-planet/volcanoes-and-climate-change https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/learn/sensing-our-planet/volc...]
- Turskarama 3y agoYes, but starting from a warmer baseline means that an eruption like this pushed things warmer than they would otherwise have been.
- monkeydreams 3y agoAgreed. This is further warming, and we have made it worse.
- lazide 3y agoOr could have just as easily caused a massive cooling event due to Sulphur Dioxide emissions.
- goodbyesf 3y agoI doubt it. The alarmists have never been right about global warming. Even back when it was called global cooling. Nor about peak oil. Nor about the ozone. Nor about HIV. Nor about covid. I really can't remember anything the alarmists have been right about. Has drought wiped out california yet? I remember the alarmists were really worried about california a few years ago. Is new orleans underwater yet? I remember how concerned the alarmists were about new orleans. The levee is holding? Also, the article is from 2022. The eruption occurred in jan 2022. And they only expected it to affect the climate for 'the months to come'. So, no reason to be alarmed now more than 1.5 years after the eruption.
- abenga 3y agoWhat do you mean? In some of those cases (Ozone, HIV, covid), people did a lot of work to deal with the problem, and succeeded. Are you saying the alarm was not warranted? We should have continued using CFCs? not worked on ARVs? Ignored the problem and not worked on vaccines? What exactly is your point? Because the sky didn't fall, we should not have cared a priori?
- lps41 3y agoNew Orleans is undeniably worse. Sea level in much of the Gulf Coast rose 8 inches from 2006 to 2018: https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/04/10/sea-level-rise-southern-us/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/04/1...
- potsandpans 3y agowhat a bizarre takeaway from this article