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I hate this shit. People making app for serious medical issues and telling people. they be cured. They just need to believe in the founders. believe in the a

I hate this shit. People making app for serious medical issues and telling people. they be cured. They just need to believe in the founders. believe in the app and then they shall be healed Hallelujah. It is the app version of snake oil, and tv healing. Keep your arm on the tv right now. How about we make a surgery app? For a monthly fee it will tell you how to perform safe surgery on your friends and neighbors. Have a side hustle. Avoid huge hospital bills. Oh we can't do that because it would be dangerous and unethical? Well the brain is an unknown number of magnitudes more complicated than our physical structure. The industry producing apps to "fix your brain" in 6 easy installments. There is a good reason people go to med school and spend a lot of time specializing. There is a good reason for psychologists going to school and specializing. and even then, they have a hard time knowing what to do, because the science is not there yet. Had you actually been able to to solve the complex collections of disorders and issues that may cause insomnia would you be looking at a Nobel prize. Not $10 every month on the app store. (or however much it is)

221qqwe 3y ago
> Not $10 every month on the app store. (or however much it is) $63 per month with a minimum 3 month subscription... so yeah... However, if we're being fair "treating" insomnia is not exactly surgery there are clearly "self-help" style approaches and general lifestyle changes which would be helpful for many/most people suffering from it. I mean that fact that you can't "cure" it 100% for everyone is not a good reason not to try. I don't think the all or nothing approach is very constructive. Helping some people to some extent is still better than nothing (no clue if the app is worth it or not, although given the pricing and the way it's presented, I'm also leaning towards snake oil)
- ThinkBeat 3y ago
  There are "sleep hygiene" changes (as they call it) that are beneficial. They are easy to find for free with a web search: This one the CDC links to: https://sleepeducation.org/healthy-sleep/healthy-sleep-habits/ https://sleepeducation.org/healthy-sleep/healthy-sleep-habit... They are also usually the first recommendations that your primary care physician will offer you. Paying $189 for them seems excessive. But ok, yeah, the app can present it and help you keep up a new routine. The main reason for my comment was the way it was presented. As "a cure" for people with chronic insomnia. George had it for 7 years. By that point most people will be far past such initial recommendations. They are also far past what your primary care physician can help you with. The person then needs to see a sleep disorder specialist. Relevant quotes from the post: "Insomnia has been a personal struggle for both of us. "George’s insomnia led to him quantifying his sleep for the last 7 years" "I (Ed) suffered from chronic insomnia for over a year and tried everything from cutting coffee, blocking blue light, to taking melatonin and antihistamine, but couldn’t find anything that worked"

221qqwe 3y ago

> Not $10 every month on the app store. (or however much it is) $63 per month with a minimum 3 month subscription... so yeah... However, if we're being fair "treating" insomnia is not exactly surgery there are clearly "self-help" style approaches and general lifestyle changes which would be helpful for many/most people suffering from it. I mean that fact that you can't "cure" it 100% for everyone is not a good reason not to try. I don't think the all or nothing approach is very constructive. Helping some people to some extent is still better than nothing (no clue if the app is worth it or not, although given the pricing and the way it's presented, I'm also leaning towards snake oil)

ThinkBeat 3y ago
There are "sleep hygiene" changes (as they call it) that are beneficial. They are easy to find for free with a web search: This one the CDC links to: https://sleepeducation.org/healthy-sleep/healthy-sleep-habits/ https://sleepeducation.org/healthy-sleep/healthy-sleep-habit... They are also usually the first recommendations that your primary care physician will offer you. Paying $189 for them seems excessive. But ok, yeah, the app can present it and help you keep up a new routine. The main reason for my comment was the way it was presented. As "a cure" for people with chronic insomnia. George had it for 7 years. By that point most people will be far past such initial recommendations. They are also far past what your primary care physician can help you with. The person then needs to see a sleep disorder specialist. Relevant quotes from the post: "Insomnia has been a personal struggle for both of us. "George’s insomnia led to him quantifying his sleep for the last 7 years" "I (Ed) suffered from chronic insomnia for over a year and tried everything from cutting coffee, blocking blue light, to taking melatonin and antihistamine, but couldn’t find anything that worked"