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For some reason this makes me feel depressed. I guess it is the lack of functional time machine combined with the on-going Holocene extinction.

germinalphrase 3y ago
Don’t worry. Once we’re all gone - life will spring right back.
- deleted 3y ago
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- danjoredd 3y ago
  Sure, the Earth will adapt and be fine long-term. Its gonna suck for us humans though. Thats the part Im not looking forward to.
  - captainbland 3y ago
    Yeah personally I could do without living through some kind of age of decay with masses of people getting displaced and such.
- pookah 3y ago
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- developer93 3y ago
  Don't give a shoot about life, it's humans I'm interested in.
  - acdanger 3y ago
    With no other (non-human) life , humans could not exist .
    - developer93 3y ago
      Indeed, which is why I call myself an environmentalist. I just mean that other life surviving without humans isn't good enough for me, I want the human race to continue in some form.
Alupis 3y ago
> For some reason this makes me feel depressed. Or you can recognize "climate change" is a constant. That bit has been lost with the recent debate over climate science - far too many people view any change as a disaster. We can look at this map and recognize vast dramatic changes occurred before humans were ever here. Humans undeniably have an impact on climate change. That much isn't up for debate. What is up for debate is the exact extent human actions are actually influencing change vs. expediting a predetermined change vs. creating changes that would not have existed otherwise. Poles have changed[1]... oceans come and go, land disappears then reappears. The earth is surprisingly constantly changing - just not on time scales humans normally contemplate. [1] - https://ec.europa.eu/research-and-innovation/en/horizon-magazine/earths-magnetic-poles-could-start-flip-what-happens-then#:~:text=reversals%20took%20place.-,'The%20geomagnetic%20field%20has%20been%20decaying%20for%20the%20last%203%2C000,'&text=The%20last%20reversal%20occurred%20between,threshold%20needed%20before%20rising%20again https://ec.europa.eu/research-and-innovation/en/horizon-maga....
- developer93 3y ago
  Thing is, humans weren't there for nearly all of it. It's not a question of whether things change, it's a question of whether we can survive it as a species, or as a civilisation. Empires have risen and fallen throughout history, but it doesn't mean you'd rather live as part of a society in which you could die of a toothache instead of something more advanced. It's going to get extremely unpleasant, it's a no brainer that we'd like to limit the fallout.
  - forgetfulness 3y ago
    It'd be quite callous to hope that nothing will happen from the countries above the tropics that 1. Colonized Africa and Asia to secure raw materials and captive markets to develop its industry, pumping all this carbon into the atmosphere in the process 2. Will probably be able to withstand the impact of Climate Change either due to geographical reasons or due to having more developed infrastructure and economies In light of that, is the idea of asking Westerners using their cars less and switch to clean energy _such a terrible thing to ask?_
developer93 3y ago
Not depressed but gives me a strange queasy feeling to look at my town from a time when there was no life on land.. Kinda lonely by proxy..

germinalphrase 3y ago

Don’t worry. Once we’re all gone - life will spring right back.

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danjoredd 3y ago
Sure, the Earth will adapt and be fine long-term. Its gonna suck for us humans though. Thats the part Im not looking forward to.
- captainbland 3y ago
  Yeah personally I could do without living through some kind of age of decay with masses of people getting displaced and such.
pookah 3y ago
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developer93 3y ago
Don't give a shoot about life, it's humans I'm interested in.
- acdanger 3y ago
  With no other (non-human) life , humans could not exist .
  - developer93 3y ago
    Indeed, which is why I call myself an environmentalist. I just mean that other life surviving without humans isn't good enough for me, I want the human race to continue in some form.

Alupis 3y ago

> For some reason this makes me feel depressed. Or you can recognize "climate change" is a constant. That bit has been lost with the recent debate over climate science - far too many people view any change as a disaster. We can look at this map and recognize vast dramatic changes occurred before humans were ever here. Humans undeniably have an impact on climate change. That much isn't up for debate. What is up for debate is the exact extent human actions are actually influencing change vs. expediting a predetermined change vs. creating changes that would not have existed otherwise. Poles have changed[1]... oceans come and go, land disappears then reappears. The earth is surprisingly constantly changing - just not on time scales humans normally contemplate. [1] - https://ec.europa.eu/research-and-innovation/en/horizon-magazine/earths-magnetic-poles-could-start-flip-what-happens-then#:~:text=reversals%20took%20place.-,'The%20geomagnetic%20field%20has%20been%20decaying%20for%20the%20last%203%2C000,'&text=The%20last%20reversal%20occurred%20between,threshold%20needed%20before%20rising%20again https://ec.europa.eu/research-and-innovation/en/horizon-maga....

developer93 3y ago
Thing is, humans weren't there for nearly all of it. It's not a question of whether things change, it's a question of whether we can survive it as a species, or as a civilisation. Empires have risen and fallen throughout history, but it doesn't mean you'd rather live as part of a society in which you could die of a toothache instead of something more advanced. It's going to get extremely unpleasant, it's a no brainer that we'd like to limit the fallout.
- forgetfulness 3y ago
  It'd be quite callous to hope that nothing will happen from the countries above the tropics that 1. Colonized Africa and Asia to secure raw materials and captive markets to develop its industry, pumping all this carbon into the atmosphere in the process 2. Will probably be able to withstand the impact of Climate Change either due to geographical reasons or due to having more developed infrastructure and economies In light of that, is the idea of asking Westerners using their cars less and switch to clean energy _such a terrible thing to ask?_

developer93 3y ago

Not depressed but gives me a strange queasy feeling to look at my town from a time when there was no life on land.. Kinda lonely by proxy..