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Seems like a good project but this is a deal breaker for me > Nvidia and Intel GPUs are not supported Any specific reason why that is? Or if it’s in roadmap?
by bovem 3y ago
Seems like a good project but this is a deal breaker for me
> Nvidia and Intel GPUs are not supported
Any specific reason why that is? Or if it’s in roadmap?
- causi 3y agoTitle should be changed to "Instantly Turn 12% of PCs into a gaming console" because that's what fraction of the GPU market AMD has.
- DoombaBot 3y agoProbably supports just AMD because the focus of this is for mini pcs from companies like Beelink etc that use either mobile AMD cards or on board graphics from an AMD chip. Mini pcs are currently dominated by AMD hardware.
- bovem 3y agoThanks, that makes sense. Intel is also getting out of NUC market. But there are still lots of NUCs out there that could be used as a light gaming server.
- pkulak 3y agoIt probably uses SteamOS, which has no need to include Intel drivers, and probably absolutely no desire to include proprietary Nvidia binary blobs.
- Nullabillity 3y agoIntel's dGPUs have a ~0% market share, Nvidia's driver situation is a shitshow.
- Dalewyn 3y agoIntel GPUs dominate the market by far. Every Intel CPU since 2010 has a GPU, with only very specific exceptions.
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- linsomniac 3y agoI believe the "d" part of "dGPU" is tripping you up here -- the "d" is "discrete", meaning unbundled from the CPU. IOW, Intel GPUs that are not bundled with the CPU have roughly a 0% market share.
- Dalewyn 3y agoSource states "Intel GPUs are not supported", parent comment noted Intel discrete GPUs have no marketshare. Parent comment is thus irrelevant at best, misguided at worst. Not supporting Intel GPUs is throwing away the dominant leader in the GPU market.
- Nullabillity 3y agoWe're talking about a dedicated gaming system here, iGPUs are pretty much irrelevant in that context. Things would be different in the context of a browser or word processor. Besides, counting "1 Intel CPU sale = 1 Intel GPU" is misguided since that would count everyone using an Intel CPU with a dGPU as an Intel GPU customer, even if the iGPU sits idle 100% of the time. Looking at a more representative demographic, the Steam users[0], Intel has a 9% market share, vs AMD's 15% and Nvidia's 85%. I don't know whether this also overcounts hybrid-GPU users (Optimus/DSG) into the iGPU bucket as well. [0]: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
- de6u99er 3y agoI guess it has to do with their lack of open source drivers, and I bet you can install NVidia or Intel drivers by yourself.
- RussianCow 3y agoThe Intel GPU drivers have been open source for years.
- suprjami 3y agoI've been running ChimeraOS on a NUC and it works fine
- anaisbetts 3y agoIt is a copy of SteamOS which uses its own Wayland compositor (Gamescope) that is not compatible with anything other than AMD (since it was originally intended to only be used with Steam Deck, there was no reason to make it work anywhere else)
- gkhartman 3y agoI would have thought that installation of Nvidia driver packages for Arch would do the trick. I'll admit that I'm unfamiliar with the interaction between GPU drivers and Wayland, so I'm guessing it would just result in an unstable combination?
- ElectricalUnion 3y agoNot just unstable, until I think 2 years ago literally not useable as the nvidia proprietary drivers didn't implement useable GBM by default, so even if it didn't hard crash it would never show anything besides a blank screen. https://github.com/swaywm/sway/commit/b48cb6b0ec1320ad25fd2c0a1b5118dbe2536060 https://github.com/swaywm/sway/commit/b48cb6b0ec1320ad25fd2c...