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FaceTime is incredible. Everything else I’ve used - Zoom, Meet, Slack etc, has insane lag/delay even when I’m having a one-on-one with someone in the same city

FaceTime is incredible. Everything else I’ve used - Zoom, Meet, Slack etc, has insane lag/delay even when I’m having a one-on-one with someone in the same city. Then I made a FaceTime call to the opposite side of the world and it was like we were sitting next to each other. No delay. No weird interruptions. No “sorry, you go”. And I was on shitty pub wifi. I don’t know what the deal is. Do all these other services route through slow-ass servers in the US? Bad client-side processing? FaceTime proves the possibility of near-real-time communication across the globe, why is no one else even close?

nicolaslem 3y ago
FaceTime has terrible echo cancelling. If any participant is on speaker the conversation is basically half-duplex. I personally can't stand it and unfortunately my relatives do not have the reflex of using headphones for calls.
EGreg 3y ago
I think you just got lucky. All these services use roughlu the same technology.
petra 3y ago
There are video chat applications for musicians that focus on low delay. For example:farplay.io .
wkat4242 3y ago
Facetime is pretty cool but being limited to Apple is a total dealbreaker. But perhaps in the US it's viable because iphones are so common there. Here I don't see even iOS / macOS users using it because there's simply almost nobody to call with it.
- blessedwhiskers 3y ago
  FaceTime is also available in browser from Android and Windows. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212619 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212619
happytiger 3y ago
It really is amazing. I dearly wish Apple would open it up to the everyone else. Great when I need to talk to someone iPhone to iPhone or whatever, but I don’t understand why they don’t just move to replace all these services — the protocol is amazing and apple could be a global default. I don’t get the strategy.
- amenhotep 3y ago
  The strategy is to weaponise peer pressure to make you buy their phones. Cf green bubbles
  - etempleton 3y ago
    Yes, this could change as Apple pushes further into services, but for Apple, services are largely in support of physical products. Their services help create a moat. You buy iPhone, iPad, whatever, you get access to a whole bunch of unique software and services. It is the same strategy BlackBerry had with Blackberry messenger, it was a differentiator.
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nicolaslem 3y ago

FaceTime has terrible echo cancelling. If any participant is on speaker the conversation is basically half-duplex. I personally can't stand it and unfortunately my relatives do not have the reflex of using headphones for calls.

EGreg 3y ago

I think you just got lucky. All these services use roughlu the same technology.

petra 3y ago

There are video chat applications for musicians that focus on low delay. For example:farplay.io .

wkat4242 3y ago

Facetime is pretty cool but being limited to Apple is a total dealbreaker. But perhaps in the US it's viable because iphones are so common there. Here I don't see even iOS / macOS users using it because there's simply almost nobody to call with it.

blessedwhiskers 3y ago
FaceTime is also available in browser from Android and Windows. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212619 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212619

happytiger 3y ago

It really is amazing. I dearly wish Apple would open it up to the everyone else. Great when I need to talk to someone iPhone to iPhone or whatever, but I don’t understand why they don’t just move to replace all these services — the protocol is amazing and apple could be a global default. I don’t get the strategy.

amenhotep 3y ago
The strategy is to weaponise peer pressure to make you buy their phones. Cf green bubbles
- etempleton 3y ago
  Yes, this could change as Apple pushes further into services, but for Apple, services are largely in support of physical products. Their services help create a moat. You buy iPhone, iPad, whatever, you get access to a whole bunch of unique software and services. It is the same strategy BlackBerry had with Blackberry messenger, it was a differentiator.
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