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And then there is air ambulance for remote area's or serious situations which need taking to a speciality hospital, but I would have thought the US to have had

And then there is air ambulance for remote area's or serious situations which need taking to a speciality hospital, but I would have thought the US to have had more remote area's and thus longer wait times for an ambulance in remote areas. On the point of remote area's the RAF will fly helicopters (typically Seakings) over popular area's like Mount Snowdon in Wales, to ping peoples phones and get a handle who is in the places with no cell tower signal. Quite surprised to see the US beating the UK on this metric! And yet you see these secret service vehicles turn up out of nowhere on youtube video's and people still disappear never to be seen again. Most odd.

eesmith 3y ago
> And then there is air ambulance for remote area's or serious situations which need taking to a speciality hospital, Both the UK and US have different requirements for remote areas. In the supplementary data for the paper about the US, I previously referenced Table II. "Median and 90th percentile prehospital time intervals in minutes for ground transports". Table III is "Median and 90th percentile prehospital time intervals in minutes for air transports", giving an overall time of "20 (13-28)" minutes for median and "35" minutes for 90th percentile. While I can't find a recent UK source, I did find https://www.jems.com/equipment-gear/response-times-myths44-measure/ https://www.jems.com/equipment-gear/response-times-myths44-m... : > A national standard (including both urban and rural areas) was established in 2001. The most critical emergency calls, referred to as “Category A” calls, have a response time requirement of eight minutes and zero seconds, with a 75% compliance requirement, and the additional stipulation that 95% of these calls must be reached within 14 minutes in urban areas and 19 minutes in rural areas. I don't know what the current requirements are, and I don't know what the current times are - my point was only to show that those have different requirements. In any case, where there are fewer people there's also (outside of tourist areas like Snowdon) proportionally less need for emergency services. I doubt the UK has ever had to send an air ambulance to Rockall, though certainly HM Coastguard have needed to rescue someone from there. I don't know what you refer to with "secret service vehicles", much less how it's relevant.
- darkclouds 3y ago
  > I don't know what you refer to with "secret service vehicles", much less how it's relevant. I was watching a youtube video that was on teh front page of youtube, and it was some bloke somewhere in the US, a rural location, he was filming a piece on his phone and all of a sudden all these secret service cars turned up which shocked him, because he thought he was on his own in a rural location. I dont know if it was near anything of importance or not.
  - eesmith 3y ago
    And it's relevant because ... why? How does he know they are secret service, and not FBI or other organization? Camp David, the country retreat for the President of the United States, is in rural Catoctin Mountain Park. Was he there, or some place similar (like near where Cheney was hunting)? So many questions, and I don't see why answering any or all of them have any bearing on the topic.

eesmith 3y ago

> And then there is air ambulance for remote area's or serious situations which need taking to a speciality hospital, Both the UK and US have different requirements for remote areas. In the supplementary data for the paper about the US, I previously referenced Table II. "Median and 90th percentile prehospital time intervals in minutes for ground transports". Table III is "Median and 90th percentile prehospital time intervals in minutes for air transports", giving an overall time of "20 (13-28)" minutes for median and "35" minutes for 90th percentile. While I can't find a recent UK source, I did find https://www.jems.com/equipment-gear/response-times-myths44-measure/ https://www.jems.com/equipment-gear/response-times-myths44-m... : > A national standard (including both urban and rural areas) was established in 2001. The most critical emergency calls, referred to as “Category A” calls, have a response time requirement of eight minutes and zero seconds, with a 75% compliance requirement, and the additional stipulation that 95% of these calls must be reached within 14 minutes in urban areas and 19 minutes in rural areas. I don't know what the current requirements are, and I don't know what the current times are - my point was only to show that those have different requirements. In any case, where there are fewer people there's also (outside of tourist areas like Snowdon) proportionally less need for emergency services. I doubt the UK has ever had to send an air ambulance to Rockall, though certainly HM Coastguard have needed to rescue someone from there. I don't know what you refer to with "secret service vehicles", much less how it's relevant.

darkclouds 3y ago
> I don't know what you refer to with "secret service vehicles", much less how it's relevant. I was watching a youtube video that was on teh front page of youtube, and it was some bloke somewhere in the US, a rural location, he was filming a piece on his phone and all of a sudden all these secret service cars turned up which shocked him, because he thought he was on his own in a rural location. I dont know if it was near anything of importance or not.
- eesmith 3y ago
  And it's relevant because ... why? How does he know they are secret service, and not FBI or other organization? Camp David, the country retreat for the President of the United States, is in rural Catoctin Mountain Park. Was he there, or some place similar (like near where Cheney was hunting)? So many questions, and I don't see why answering any or all of them have any bearing on the topic.