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> But you won't get people involved by not having any team meetings at all... Having worked from home for decades now, back in my day the connectivity wasn't g

> But you won't get people involved by not having any team meetings at all... Having worked from home for decades now, back in my day the connectivity wasn't good enough for meetings. I never found it limiting in that way. In fact, it was easier to get involved as you had time to get involved, not wasting away in useless meetings. In my experience, the main problem is that most people working remotely were thrown into it during the COVID age and never took time to develop remote working skills, leaving their office skills they had built up to lean on, with everyone hoping they would carry over. But it doesn't work like that. Being skilled in one thing does not mean you are skilled in all things. Likewise, my career has been spent working from home. If you threw me into an office, where I have no experience, I'd equally be a fumbling around disaster. They are entirely different skillsets.

bipson 3y ago
That might all be true. But working together efficiently means acting as a team, being a "human" (sorry all cooperative animals, you're human too) To act as a closely connected team that is able to sort things out and deal with the unforseen, helping each other out and understanding what the other needs, it is simply not enough to be a genius with chat and mail and a todo-list. It might work, but then you either rely on others to deal with the chaos for you, making you a drone, or you remain well under potential - what you could achieve with a good team.
- randomdata 3y ago
  > To act as a closely connected team that is able to sort things out and deal with the unforseen, helping each other out To a point, but it is generally understood that unskilled members of a team will bring down a team to unsustainable levels. A team can only compromise so far. If you have a medical team, for instance, you're not walking the streets to see the first hobo join. If you have a sports team, you carefully ensure the members are skilled at the game. Same applies here. COVID brought extenuating circumstances, of which accommodations were made, but those who haven't developed the necessary skills at this point can go back to the office. They are not a good fit for these particular teams. And that's okay. There are many different teams for them to find a good fit.

bipson 3y ago

That might all be true. But working together efficiently means acting as a team, being a "human" (sorry all cooperative animals, you're human too) To act as a closely connected team that is able to sort things out and deal with the unforseen, helping each other out and understanding what the other needs, it is simply not enough to be a genius with chat and mail and a todo-list. It might work, but then you either rely on others to deal with the chaos for you, making you a drone, or you remain well under potential - what you could achieve with a good team.

randomdata 3y ago
> To act as a closely connected team that is able to sort things out and deal with the unforseen, helping each other out To a point, but it is generally understood that unskilled members of a team will bring down a team to unsustainable levels. A team can only compromise so far. If you have a medical team, for instance, you're not walking the streets to see the first hobo join. If you have a sports team, you carefully ensure the members are skilled at the game. Same applies here. COVID brought extenuating circumstances, of which accommodations were made, but those who haven't developed the necessary skills at this point can go back to the office. They are not a good fit for these particular teams. And that's okay. There are many different teams for them to find a good fit.