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It’s a law in many countries that you have to carry your ID with you, eg Germany. The police may do random check in high risk areas. Do you think Germany treats

It’s a law in many countries that you have to carry your ID with you, eg Germany. The police may do random check in high risk areas. Do you think Germany treats its citizens without dignity?

nebalee 3y ago
You have to own an ID document (Pass or Personalausweis) in Germany, but you don't have to carry it with you.
- LudwigNagasena 3y ago
  Maybe I misinterpret it, but the law says “[Germans] must present their identity card at the request of an authority entitled to check identification.” I guess they won’t mind if it’s at your home a casual drive away, but if you live in another city?
HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
The point is that this isn't Germany and there is no such law here.
- LudwigNagasena 3y ago
  If there is no such law in Texas, then surely detaining random people who are not white enough and putting them in jail would be a significant topic of discussion rather than an offhand comment on HN. 40% of Texas are Hispanic — a demographic that would be under the most suspicion. That is a lot of people in jail for no reason and without any legal reasons. The whole state would probably get bankrupt after a few lawsuits by those unfairly arrested citizens.
  - HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
    I was tempted to reply, "you're not from around here, are you?" but that's probably a bit too snarky. There are only four states that require you have an ID during a police stop and Texas is not one of them. Obviously if you're driving, a driver's license is required. But for a random stop walking down the road? Nope, Texas does not require that you have ID. To the rest of your post: I honestly don't know where to start. You're making a lot of assumptions that don't hold. Suffice to say that it's a lot harder to prevail in a case against the police than you realize. People get arrested/thrown into jail for no reason far more often than you apparently think. I know someone (a software developer actually) who was attacked by an undercover officer in a case of mistaken identity. He fought back not knowing the guy was a cop. To prevent him from being able to sue, they charged him with assaulting a police officer. After months of trying to fight it in court, he finally gave up. City dropped the charges as long as he agreed not to sue them. This is why people are so pissed and why there have been so many protests in the last few years. Everyone is tired of this shit.
    - LudwigNagasena 3y ago
      Let’s assume all of that is true. How come that your media feeds me stuff about “it’s a MAGA country” cases that turn out to be hoaxes or “it’s okay to be white” signs at college campuses instead of citizens being unlawfully detained so often it is a legitimate threat to half of the state’s population? That sounds like a massive conspiracy that all media (left, liberal, conservative) are part of.
      - HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
        Because none of what I said is newsworthy.

It’s a law in many countries that you have to carry your ID with you, eg Germany. The police may do random check in high risk areas. Do you think Germany treats its citizens without dignity?

nebalee 3y ago

You have to own an ID document (Pass or Personalausweis) in Germany, but you don't have to carry it with you.

LudwigNagasena 3y ago
Maybe I misinterpret it, but the law says “[Germans] must present their identity card at the request of an authority entitled to check identification.” I guess they won’t mind if it’s at your home a casual drive away, but if you live in another city?

HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago

The point is that this isn't Germany and there is no such law here.

LudwigNagasena 3y ago
If there is no such law in Texas, then surely detaining random people who are not white enough and putting them in jail would be a significant topic of discussion rather than an offhand comment on HN. 40% of Texas are Hispanic — a demographic that would be under the most suspicion. That is a lot of people in jail for no reason and without any legal reasons. The whole state would probably get bankrupt after a few lawsuits by those unfairly arrested citizens.
- HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
  I was tempted to reply, "you're not from around here, are you?" but that's probably a bit too snarky. There are only four states that require you have an ID during a police stop and Texas is not one of them. Obviously if you're driving, a driver's license is required. But for a random stop walking down the road? Nope, Texas does not require that you have ID. To the rest of your post: I honestly don't know where to start. You're making a lot of assumptions that don't hold. Suffice to say that it's a lot harder to prevail in a case against the police than you realize. People get arrested/thrown into jail for no reason far more often than you apparently think. I know someone (a software developer actually) who was attacked by an undercover officer in a case of mistaken identity. He fought back not knowing the guy was a cop. To prevent him from being able to sue, they charged him with assaulting a police officer. After months of trying to fight it in court, he finally gave up. City dropped the charges as long as he agreed not to sue them. This is why people are so pissed and why there have been so many protests in the last few years. Everyone is tired of this shit.
  - LudwigNagasena 3y ago
    Let’s assume all of that is true. How come that your media feeds me stuff about “it’s a MAGA country” cases that turn out to be hoaxes or “it’s okay to be white” signs at college campuses instead of citizens being unlawfully detained so often it is a legitimate threat to half of the state’s population? That sounds like a massive conspiracy that all media (left, liberal, conservative) are part of.
    - HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
      Because none of what I said is newsworthy.