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> Zoom is the Skype of video - it turned a technology few people used much into a mass-market product. But next we’ll get the equivalents of Instagram and Snap

> Zoom is the Skype of video - it turned a technology few people used much into a mass-market product. But next we’ll get the equivalents of Instagram and Snap - products that ask different questions. Zoom solved getting into a call, but why are you in the call? Complete garbage. I know why I'm in a call, it's none of your business, and I don't want products asking questions.

BryanBeshore 3y ago
Agreed. Also, who thought it would be a great product improvement to update as you are launching a call? In addition, a few more things that suck about Zoom: - No I don't want my screen to go to Zoom/fullscreen when someone shares their screen - When the call ends, just end. Don't show me anything more with zoom, or make my screen go to a zoom/call ended modal. 1 click on/ 1 click off. Just be simple!
- Infinitesimus 3y ago
  > - No I don't want my screen to go to Zoom/fullscreen when someone shares their screen There's a setting for that. Settings > Share Screen > Window size when screen sharing > Maintain current size I'm sure you can imagine why this isn't the default. Many people work off their laptop screens and low res monitors. Few have 32" 4K ultrawide magic beans ones so full screen helps them actually see the content. > - When the call ends, just end. Don't show me anything more with zoom, or make my screen go to a zoom/call ended modal. I wonder if this is so that people don't panic, wondering whether the call _really_ ended or the window just disappeared by the other person can hear them.
jonas21 3y ago
You're taking this too literally. The product will not be asking you what you're doing. The product designer will ask these questions of themselves and create something that better serves these use cases.
- sdfghswe 3y ago
  I get it. But I don't want to the product designer to be asking these questions either. It's very obvious what I want, I want something that always works with no effort. I don't want something that is quirky or interesting or engaging, because someone somewhere is trying to hit some engagement metrics and aiming that increase my usage time. Just get out of my way, and I will love it. I love linux, I love git, I love vim, I love torrents. All of those just get out of my way and give me what I want without someone somewhere asking questions.
  - jonas21 3y ago
    Linux wasn't the first OS, git wasn't the first source control, and vim wasn't the first editor. In each of these cases, someone used the existing solutions, asked themselves how they could be better for a particular use case, and came up with a solution.
    - sdfghswe 3y ago
      You're taking this too literally. I don't mean that things can't be improved. I mean that anything backed by Ben Evans will have incentives which aren't mine.

BryanBeshore 3y ago

Agreed. Also, who thought it would be a great product improvement to update as you are launching a call? In addition, a few more things that suck about Zoom: - No I don't want my screen to go to Zoom/fullscreen when someone shares their screen - When the call ends, just end. Don't show me anything more with zoom, or make my screen go to a zoom/call ended modal. 1 click on/ 1 click off. Just be simple!

Infinitesimus 3y ago
> - No I don't want my screen to go to Zoom/fullscreen when someone shares their screen There's a setting for that. Settings > Share Screen > Window size when screen sharing > Maintain current size I'm sure you can imagine why this isn't the default. Many people work off their laptop screens and low res monitors. Few have 32" 4K ultrawide magic beans ones so full screen helps them actually see the content. > - When the call ends, just end. Don't show me anything more with zoom, or make my screen go to a zoom/call ended modal. I wonder if this is so that people don't panic, wondering whether the call _really_ ended or the window just disappeared by the other person can hear them.

jonas21 3y ago

You're taking this too literally. The product will not be asking you what you're doing. The product designer will ask these questions of themselves and create something that better serves these use cases.

sdfghswe 3y ago
I get it. But I don't want to the product designer to be asking these questions either. It's very obvious what I want, I want something that always works with no effort. I don't want something that is quirky or interesting or engaging, because someone somewhere is trying to hit some engagement metrics and aiming that increase my usage time. Just get out of my way, and I will love it. I love linux, I love git, I love vim, I love torrents. All of those just get out of my way and give me what I want without someone somewhere asking questions.
- jonas21 3y ago
  Linux wasn't the first OS, git wasn't the first source control, and vim wasn't the first editor. In each of these cases, someone used the existing solutions, asked themselves how they could be better for a particular use case, and came up with a solution.
  - sdfghswe 3y ago
    You're taking this too literally. I don't mean that things can't be improved. I mean that anything backed by Ben Evans will have incentives which aren't mine.