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Just to give a sense of how bad 1.2 million people over two years is: the NYC subway system carries significantly more people than that per day.

rayiner 3y ago
Those numbers aren’t possible literally anywhere else. Silver line phase II extension carried about 1.1 million people over six months. That’s the marquee project of the DC metro system—the only thing it has focused on building over the last decade (to the detriment of the rest of the system). Boring Company’s little demo carried a meaningful fraction as many passengers as that $3 billion dollar, decade-in-the-making transit project.
- jakelazaroff 3y ago
  Is it a meaningful fraction? What is the theoretical daily capacity of the Boring Company tunnels vs. the DC silver line extension? Even at this meager capacity, we’ve already heard reports of traffic in the tunnels.
  - rayiner 3y ago
    The theoretical capacity doesn’t matter because Silver Line ridership doesn’t come anywhere near capacity.
tzs 3y ago
Why are we comparing a system that just has 4 stops on the Las Vegas Convention Center campus plus one at a nearby hotel to the much much much larger entire NYC subway system?
- jakelazaroff 3y ago
  Sure, let's compare it per station. According to Wikipedia, NYC has 5.2 million daily riders and 472 stations [1] for an average of 11,000 riders per station per day — over 26x more than the Las Vegas Loop stations have been accommodating. Even if you adjust for population differences (LV ~600k, NYC ~8m) the Las Vegas Loop does significantly worse. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_City_Subway_stations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_City_Subway_s...
  - tzs 3y ago
    That still seems questionable to me because they are completely different kinds of systems. The NYC system is serving an entire city with stops near a large number of businesses of all kinds. It's a system that almost anyone in the city might have reason to use. The LV system has stops at just two businesses (four at the convention center and one at a nearby hotel). It's a system that is only useful to people who need to move between locations at the convention center or between the convention center and that one hotel.

rayiner 3y ago

Those numbers aren’t possible literally anywhere else. Silver line phase II extension carried about 1.1 million people over six months. That’s the marquee project of the DC metro system—the only thing it has focused on building over the last decade (to the detriment of the rest of the system). Boring Company’s little demo carried a meaningful fraction as many passengers as that $3 billion dollar, decade-in-the-making transit project.

jakelazaroff 3y ago
Is it a meaningful fraction? What is the theoretical daily capacity of the Boring Company tunnels vs. the DC silver line extension? Even at this meager capacity, we’ve already heard reports of traffic in the tunnels.
- rayiner 3y ago
  The theoretical capacity doesn’t matter because Silver Line ridership doesn’t come anywhere near capacity.

tzs 3y ago

Why are we comparing a system that just has 4 stops on the Las Vegas Convention Center campus plus one at a nearby hotel to the much much much larger entire NYC subway system?

jakelazaroff 3y ago
Sure, let's compare it per station. According to Wikipedia, NYC has 5.2 million daily riders and 472 stations [1] for an average of 11,000 riders per station per day — over 26x more than the Las Vegas Loop stations have been accommodating. Even if you adjust for population differences (LV ~600k, NYC ~8m) the Las Vegas Loop does significantly worse. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_City_Subway_stations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_City_Subway_s...
- tzs 3y ago
  That still seems questionable to me because they are completely different kinds of systems. The NYC system is serving an entire city with stops near a large number of businesses of all kinds. It's a system that almost anyone in the city might have reason to use. The LV system has stops at just two businesses (four at the convention center and one at a nearby hotel). It's a system that is only useful to people who need to move between locations at the convention center or between the convention center and that one hotel.