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Anecdotally, among my social group, almost everyone has heard of it, and no-one has ever experienced it.

by scubbo 3y ago

projectileboy 3y ago
Your mileage may definitely vary. In 20+ years, I’ve had four incidents of receiving obviously counterfeit goods; no idea if it has happened more often than that and I was just unaware.
- scubbo 3y ago
  Certainly fair! I suspect there's probably some concentration in particular product areas - would be interested to see any research done (though that'd be tricky, given the cost involved and the difficulty in proving something to be counterfeit)
  - projectileboy 3y ago
    Good point. I only have my own anecdata and that of friends; it would be nice to see some real stats. Of course, even if Amazon has that data, they would be unlikely to share!
luma 3y ago
... that they are aware of.
- ljf 3y ago
  I got a pack of Uno cards recently - and never considered that they were fake, until I got out our other set - and suddenly it was clear the card stock was totally different, and it was missing the copywrite wording. But until that point I had no reason to think they'd be fake. It is a park of Uno cards that sell for £5 to £10 - but then go to Temu and find (fake?) packs for £2.50 delivered, so I guess the mark-up is worth it for someone.
- scubbo 3y ago
  I have no problem with receiving a counterfeit that is indistinguishable from the "real" product. Is it morally sketchy? Absolutely. Is the outcome for me the same? Also yes.
  - maximinus_thrax 3y ago
    > I have no problem with receiving a counterfeit that is indistinguishable from the "real" product. Would you hold the same opinion about stuff you'd eat such as supplements? What does `indistinguishable` mean in this context? Say lower quality fish oil which as it's a pill, you can't tell the difference? This would be the fortunate case, I wouldn't even want to bring up mislabeled vitamins or stuff which can actually cause harm that's hard to trace back.

Anecdotally, among my social group, almost everyone has heard of it, and no-one has ever experienced it.

by scubbo 3y ago

Anecdotally, among my social group, almost everyone has heard of it, and no-one has ever experienced it.

Your mileage may definitely vary. In 20+ years, I’ve had four incidents of receiving obviously counterfeit goods; no idea if it has happened more often than that and I was just unaware.

scubbo 3y ago
Certainly fair! I suspect there's probably some concentration in particular product areas - would be interested to see any research done (though that'd be tricky, given the cost involved and the difficulty in proving something to be counterfeit)
- projectileboy 3y ago
  Good point. I only have my own anecdata and that of friends; it would be nice to see some real stats. Of course, even if Amazon has that data, they would be unlikely to share!

luma 3y ago

... that they are aware of.

ljf 3y ago
I got a pack of Uno cards recently - and never considered that they were fake, until I got out our other set - and suddenly it was clear the card stock was totally different, and it was missing the copywrite wording. But until that point I had no reason to think they'd be fake. It is a park of Uno cards that sell for £5 to £10 - but then go to Temu and find (fake?) packs for £2.50 delivered, so I guess the mark-up is worth it for someone.
scubbo 3y ago
I have no problem with receiving a counterfeit that is indistinguishable from the "real" product. Is it morally sketchy? Absolutely. Is the outcome for me the same? Also yes.
- maximinus_thrax 3y ago
  > I have no problem with receiving a counterfeit that is indistinguishable from the "real" product. Would you hold the same opinion about stuff you'd eat such as supplements? What does `indistinguishable` mean in this context? Say lower quality fish oil which as it's a pill, you can't tell the difference? This would be the fortunate case, I wouldn't even want to bring up mislabeled vitamins or stuff which can actually cause harm that's hard to trace back.