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they don't have proper specs, manufacturing equipment, materials, engineers, machinists, etc. they been trying to source parts from india, china, iran, etc.

by tguvot 3y ago

xp84 3y ago
For sure, they will be using half-butted homegrown (or made in those countries) clones, just like you would see in the Soviet era. It will lead to a gradual but increasing incidence of air disasters. Russian friends, please avoid flying if you can.
- tguvot 3y ago
  most likely clones. those days everybody semi-capable seems to be directed towards weapons manufacturing/etc. there is enormous shortage of workforce even for lower level skills manufacturing.
- piskov 3y ago
  You’re talking like Russians are the people living in some Stone Age :-) “half-butted homegrown clones for parts”, my ass. How about an actual brand new twinjet airplane with carbon fibre reinforced polymer wing (consumes less fuel then Boeing/airbus alternatives) like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkut_MC-21 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkut_MC-21
  - tguvot 3y ago
    what is the production rate of MC-21 ? SSJ For example (I read yesterday), was planned to build 24 this year. In first half an year they built 2 and plan was revised down to 6
SoftTalker 3y ago
You can get Chinese copies of almost any part for any car, a lot of them aren't very good but they are inexpensive and that's tempting for a lot of people who do their own repairs, or bottom-feeder shops. And sometimes they actually aren't too bad. A big reason this may not be true for aircraft parts is that in most countries buying unapproved aftermarket parts is illegal at least for commercial airlines. Not so for autombile parts.
- tguvot 3y ago
  i know. i said trying. i didn't say succeeding. they also try to organize all kind of shell companies for illegal imports. i read blog of some russian plane mechanic. he did write that they get parts of "whatever" origin to use on airbuses/boeings. i think they also canned a lot of safety regulations with regards to airlines and airplane maintenance
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they don't have proper specs, manufacturing equipment, materials, engineers, machinists, etc. they been trying to source parts from india, china, iran, etc.

by tguvot 3y ago

they don't have proper specs, manufacturing equipment, materials, engineers, machinists, etc. they been trying to source parts from india, china, iran, etc.

xp84 3y ago

For sure, they will be using half-butted homegrown (or made in those countries) clones, just like you would see in the Soviet era. It will lead to a gradual but increasing incidence of air disasters. Russian friends, please avoid flying if you can.

tguvot 3y ago
most likely clones. those days everybody semi-capable seems to be directed towards weapons manufacturing/etc. there is enormous shortage of workforce even for lower level skills manufacturing.
piskov 3y ago
You’re talking like Russians are the people living in some Stone Age :-) “half-butted homegrown clones for parts”, my ass. How about an actual brand new twinjet airplane with carbon fibre reinforced polymer wing (consumes less fuel then Boeing/airbus alternatives) like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkut_MC-21 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkut_MC-21
- tguvot 3y ago
  what is the production rate of MC-21 ? SSJ For example (I read yesterday), was planned to build 24 this year. In first half an year they built 2 and plan was revised down to 6

SoftTalker 3y ago

You can get Chinese copies of almost any part for any car, a lot of them aren't very good but they are inexpensive and that's tempting for a lot of people who do their own repairs, or bottom-feeder shops. And sometimes they actually aren't too bad. A big reason this may not be true for aircraft parts is that in most countries buying unapproved aftermarket parts is illegal at least for commercial airlines. Not so for autombile parts.

tguvot 3y ago
i know. i said trying. i didn't say succeeding. they also try to organize all kind of shell companies for illegal imports. i read blog of some russian plane mechanic. he did write that they get parts of "whatever" origin to use on airbuses/boeings. i think they also canned a lot of safety regulations with regards to airlines and airplane maintenance
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