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> Why is it the cars job to even decide if I should be allowed to use the GPS? "I'm a good multitasker! I can do this perfectly safely! Why shouldn't I? Cops

by WWLink 3y ago

> Why is it the cars job to even decide if I should be allowed to use the GPS? "I'm a good multitasker! I can do this perfectly safely! Why shouldn't I? Cops do it all the time!" Every time I've seen this sorta subject come up on car-related forums there's a non-negligible amount of people who carry an opinion like that.

ars 3y ago
But I guess my phone doesn't have a nanny? Are we planning to nanny the entire world? Putting a nanny on a car is just stupid. Especially because, surprise, surprise, passengers actually do sometimes ride in cars! This is simply not the job of the car.
- WWLink 3y ago
  Then let the passenger do that shit on their own phone. Why do you need them entering stuff into the car's nav unit? That shit is distracting anyway. Don't half-ass shit. Besides, we all know you want to fucking watch TV while you drive.
messe 3y ago
Not just car related forums, those people are everywhere. I've seen someone on this site call for the abolition of drunk driving laws, arguing that the punishable act should be driving recklessly rather than the factors that led to the reckless driving; because of course, if you think you can drive drunk safely, then why shouldn't you be allowed to (/s)?
- lesuorac 3y ago
  I'd be more inclined to agree with their arguments if the driving test tested more than just having a pulse. Sure if you can demonstrate that you can do X activity safely it seems reasonable to allow you to do so. However, that hasn't been demonstrated.
- avar 3y ago
  That's idiotic, but current drunk driving laws in most places are overzealous in punishing responsible behavior. E.g. sleeping off your drunkenness while sitting in the front seat with the keys within reach. Starting the car to run the heater or AC might get you additional punishment.
  - lmm 3y ago
    Is that really "most places"? I only ever heard of such weird laws happening in one country.
- patrick451 3y ago
  I think you should be able to take a driving test while intoxicated. You'd get an endorsement on your license that your permitted to drive up the BAC level you tested at.
  - HarryHirsch 3y ago
    It's really not funny because it doesn't stop there. Two or three years ago a completely habituated faculty member at UMass Amherst hit a pedestrian in a mall parking lot with something like 0.25 % BAC. Ordinary people would cycle between bed and bathroom at that level of intoxication and feel very sorry for themselves, but terminal addicts go out to the mall and exceed the limits of even their tolerance. Woman fell up the ladder and is now a named chair at a different institution. It's bizarre - it ought to occur to such people that ordinary folks cannot function with six or eight beers in the head, and that they ought to seek treatment for their condition but it just doesn't. No tolerance for alcohol behind the wheel.
- AnthonyMouse 3y ago
  > I've seen someone on this site call for the abolition of drunk driving laws, arguing that the punishable act should be driving recklessly rather than the factors that led to the reckless driving Is there some flaw in the argument? Typically it's the reckless driving which would get you caught anyway. Which is why the "I'm fine" crowd still does it despite it being illegal -- they think they're not going to do anything that will get them pulled over. The advantage of that proposal isn't that the drunks get away with it. If they're weaving in and out of lanes or driving 35 on the highway they're still getting cited. It's that the person doing the exact same thing because they're excessively tired or otherwise incapacitated gets the same citation even if they can blow in the machine and get a zero.
  - Gravityloss 3y ago
    What's the problem with swerving around and driving over speed limit if you don't hit anyone? EDIT: /s
    - kaashif 3y ago
      What's the problem with playing Russian roulette if you don't kill anyone?
    - AnthonyMouse 3y ago
      > What's the problem with swerving around and driving over speed limit if you don't hit anyone? It can cause someone else to hit you. And the example was driving under the minimum speed.
  - CyberDildonics 3y ago
    Why try to prevent problems when you can just react once it's too late? Brilliant.
Turskarama 3y ago
The problem is that these people will find a way to "multitask" no matter how hard the car makes it. Often by just doing it with their phone instead.

by WWLink 3y ago

ars 3y ago

But I guess my phone doesn't have a nanny? Are we planning to nanny the entire world? Putting a nanny on a car is just stupid. Especially because, surprise, surprise, passengers actually do sometimes ride in cars! This is simply not the job of the car.

WWLink 3y ago
Then let the passenger do that shit on their own phone. Why do you need them entering stuff into the car's nav unit? That shit is distracting anyway. Don't half-ass shit. Besides, we all know you want to fucking watch TV while you drive.

messe 3y ago

Not just car related forums, those people are everywhere. I've seen someone on this site call for the abolition of drunk driving laws, arguing that the punishable act should be driving recklessly rather than the factors that led to the reckless driving; because of course, if you think you can drive drunk safely, then why shouldn't you be allowed to (/s)?

lesuorac 3y ago
I'd be more inclined to agree with their arguments if the driving test tested more than just having a pulse. Sure if you can demonstrate that you can do X activity safely it seems reasonable to allow you to do so. However, that hasn't been demonstrated.
avar 3y ago
That's idiotic, but current drunk driving laws in most places are overzealous in punishing responsible behavior. E.g. sleeping off your drunkenness while sitting in the front seat with the keys within reach. Starting the car to run the heater or AC might get you additional punishment.
- lmm 3y ago
  Is that really "most places"? I only ever heard of such weird laws happening in one country.
patrick451 3y ago
I think you should be able to take a driving test while intoxicated. You'd get an endorsement on your license that your permitted to drive up the BAC level you tested at.
- HarryHirsch 3y ago
  It's really not funny because it doesn't stop there. Two or three years ago a completely habituated faculty member at UMass Amherst hit a pedestrian in a mall parking lot with something like 0.25 % BAC. Ordinary people would cycle between bed and bathroom at that level of intoxication and feel very sorry for themselves, but terminal addicts go out to the mall and exceed the limits of even their tolerance. Woman fell up the ladder and is now a named chair at a different institution. It's bizarre - it ought to occur to such people that ordinary folks cannot function with six or eight beers in the head, and that they ought to seek treatment for their condition but it just doesn't. No tolerance for alcohol behind the wheel.
AnthonyMouse 3y ago
> I've seen someone on this site call for the abolition of drunk driving laws, arguing that the punishable act should be driving recklessly rather than the factors that led to the reckless driving Is there some flaw in the argument? Typically it's the reckless driving which would get you caught anyway. Which is why the "I'm fine" crowd still does it despite it being illegal -- they think they're not going to do anything that will get them pulled over. The advantage of that proposal isn't that the drunks get away with it. If they're weaving in and out of lanes or driving 35 on the highway they're still getting cited. It's that the person doing the exact same thing because they're excessively tired or otherwise incapacitated gets the same citation even if they can blow in the machine and get a zero.
- Gravityloss 3y ago
  What's the problem with swerving around and driving over speed limit if you don't hit anyone? EDIT: /s
  - kaashif 3y ago
    What's the problem with playing Russian roulette if you don't kill anyone?
  - AnthonyMouse 3y ago
    > What's the problem with swerving around and driving over speed limit if you don't hit anyone? It can cause someone else to hit you. And the example was driving under the minimum speed.
- CyberDildonics 3y ago
  Why try to prevent problems when you can just react once it's too late? Brilliant.

Turskarama 3y ago

The problem is that these people will find a way to "multitask" no matter how hard the car makes it. Often by just doing it with their phone instead.