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"source available" means one thing, but this is properly MIT open source and i believe the authors should receive credit for that in this age of frankenlicenses

by swyx 3y ago

"source available" means one thing, but this is properly MIT open source and i believe the authors should receive credit for that in this age of frankenlicenses EDIT: ah: "This work was partially funded by the NSF grant IIS-2107391." ok cool we the taxpayer funded it haha

_puk 3y ago
I didn't want to open that can of worms: "If you use ChainForge for research purposes, or build upon the source code, we ask that you cite this project in any related publications. The BibTeX you can use for now is.." That's outside of the MIT licence as far as I'm concerned
- 7moritz7 3y ago
  It says "we ask", not "you have to". I'd say it's open to interpretation that this is an informal request and not legally binding. Also I do want to open the can of worms and say that whoever doesn't even have the respect to include a citation on request when using someone else's work should just write everything themselves.
- priyanmuthu 3y ago
  Hi! I’m one of the great students working on this. This is merely a request to get more visibility. It will also help us get more grants. We don’t have any intention of restricting the “openness” of it.
  - _puk 3y ago
    Awesome, thank you! If I called it truly open source I half expected to get shot down. I know where we stand now :)
  - gsuuon 3y ago
    Y'all sure are some great students! ;)
- mabcat 3y ago
  I think that's the wrong end of the stick. When you publish research, the software you used/built on is part of the methods and needs to be cited. The authors are doing you a courtesy by providing a pasteable citation. Similar "we would appreciate citations" statement for (BSD-licensed) pandas: https://pandas.pydata.org/about/citing.html https://pandas.pydata.org/about/citing.html 8000+ pubs citing pandas: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=9876954816936339312 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=9876954816936339312

by swyx 3y ago

_puk 3y ago

I didn't want to open that can of worms: "If you use ChainForge for research purposes, or build upon the source code, we ask that you cite this project in any related publications. The BibTeX you can use for now is.." That's outside of the MIT licence as far as I'm concerned

7moritz7 3y ago
It says "we ask", not "you have to". I'd say it's open to interpretation that this is an informal request and not legally binding. Also I do want to open the can of worms and say that whoever doesn't even have the respect to include a citation on request when using someone else's work should just write everything themselves.
priyanmuthu 3y ago
Hi! I’m one of the great students working on this. This is merely a request to get more visibility. It will also help us get more grants. We don’t have any intention of restricting the “openness” of it.
- _puk 3y ago
  Awesome, thank you! If I called it truly open source I half expected to get shot down. I know where we stand now :)
- gsuuon 3y ago
  Y'all sure are some great students! ;)
mabcat 3y ago
I think that's the wrong end of the stick. When you publish research, the software you used/built on is part of the methods and needs to be cited. The authors are doing you a courtesy by providing a pasteable citation. Similar "we would appreciate citations" statement for (BSD-licensed) pandas: https://pandas.pydata.org/about/citing.html https://pandas.pydata.org/about/citing.html 8000+ pubs citing pandas: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=9876954816936339312 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=9876954816936339312