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Life matters not there. Not in war. Not in peace. Not in travel. Not in home. Most Western countries obsess about proventing deaths. The USA does as well, exc

Life matters not there. Not in war. Not in peace. Not in travel. Not in home. Most Western countries obsess about proventing deaths. The USA does as well, except among poor people and gun victims.

trefoiled 3y ago
this is just open racism
- wkat4242 3y ago
  I think it's more directed to the regime not valuing citizen lives rather than racism against Russians?
  - trefoiled 3y ago
    It quite explicitly says "not in home"
  - foverzar 3y ago
    Technically there is no way it could be definded as "racism" (Russian is not a race). But IDK what would be a proper term for a cituation when a person doesn't like something about the politics of higher government echelons and starts filling blanks by projecting it down to every comissioner, manager, certification auditor, mechanic or even every household?
    - vbezhenar 3y ago
      Chauvinism, xenophobia.
mighmi 3y ago
> The USA does as well, except among poor people and gun victims. I suggest you look at the actual causes of death in the US: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db456.htm#section_4 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db456.htm#secti... Considering typical health outcomes in the US, obesity and the life choices people make, I don't think you can honestly say the US obsesses about preventing deaths. Of course, improved health care access and personal health wouldn't materially change the numbers, just the ages where those end of life diseases finally win. A magnitude less than the causes there, car crashes are around 12.9/100,000, and guns are at 10/100,000 (54% suicides, 1% "accidents") - and the US car death rate is significantly higher than Europe or elsewhere, very preventable with more stringent driving tests and lower blood alcohol level allowances.
- serf 3y ago
  >US car death rate is significantly higher than Europe or elsewhere, very preventable with more stringent driving tests and lower blood alcohol level allowances. if you think that's the key difference between driving in Europe versus the United States then i'm not sure what to tell you. Distances are longer, traffic is denser, speed limits (in general) are higher, and the ability to drive from one place to another is more valuable given the lack of public transportation options, so there is a larger onus to drive even if you consider yourself unskilled or lesser-abled. there is more to it than drunk driving and poor training regiments. furthermore drunk driving is an extraordinarily bad metric to compare countries given the varying BAC regulations throughout the world. Drunk driving in one place may very well be legal in another.
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  - mighmi 3y ago
    You seem to have wildly misread everything I wrote e.g. > varying BAC regulations throughout the world. Drunk driving in one place may very well be legal in another when I wrote: > lower blood alcohol level allowances. I.e. reform it to be less permissive...
anticodon 3y ago
Any proof? How many civil plane catastrophes happened in Russia in the last 1.5 years?
- berkes 3y ago
  Well, there was at least one civilian aircraft shot out of the sky by Russians.
foverzar 3y ago
So you assume.
kmonsen 3y ago
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1240400/maternal-mortality-rates-worldwide-by-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1240400/maternal-mortali... The US maternal death rate is sky high for a western country with reliable statistics.

Life matters not there. Not in war. Not in peace. Not in travel. Not in home. Most Western countries obsess about proventing deaths. The USA does as well, except among poor people and gun victims.

trefoiled 3y ago

this is just open racism

wkat4242 3y ago
I think it's more directed to the regime not valuing citizen lives rather than racism against Russians?
- trefoiled 3y ago
  It quite explicitly says "not in home"
- foverzar 3y ago
  Technically there is no way it could be definded as "racism" (Russian is not a race). But IDK what would be a proper term for a cituation when a person doesn't like something about the politics of higher government echelons and starts filling blanks by projecting it down to every comissioner, manager, certification auditor, mechanic or even every household?
  - vbezhenar 3y ago
    Chauvinism, xenophobia.

mighmi 3y ago

> The USA does as well, except among poor people and gun victims. I suggest you look at the actual causes of death in the US: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db456.htm#section_4 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db456.htm#secti... Considering typical health outcomes in the US, obesity and the life choices people make, I don't think you can honestly say the US obsesses about preventing deaths. Of course, improved health care access and personal health wouldn't materially change the numbers, just the ages where those end of life diseases finally win. A magnitude less than the causes there, car crashes are around 12.9/100,000, and guns are at 10/100,000 (54% suicides, 1% "accidents") - and the US car death rate is significantly higher than Europe or elsewhere, very preventable with more stringent driving tests and lower blood alcohol level allowances.

serf 3y ago
>US car death rate is significantly higher than Europe or elsewhere, very preventable with more stringent driving tests and lower blood alcohol level allowances. if you think that's the key difference between driving in Europe versus the United States then i'm not sure what to tell you. Distances are longer, traffic is denser, speed limits (in general) are higher, and the ability to drive from one place to another is more valuable given the lack of public transportation options, so there is a larger onus to drive even if you consider yourself unskilled or lesser-abled. there is more to it than drunk driving and poor training regiments. furthermore drunk driving is an extraordinarily bad metric to compare countries given the varying BAC regulations throughout the world. Drunk driving in one place may very well be legal in another.
- deleted 3y ago
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- mighmi 3y ago
  You seem to have wildly misread everything I wrote e.g. > varying BAC regulations throughout the world. Drunk driving in one place may very well be legal in another when I wrote: > lower blood alcohol level allowances. I.e. reform it to be less permissive...

anticodon 3y ago

Any proof? How many civil plane catastrophes happened in Russia in the last 1.5 years?

berkes 3y ago
Well, there was at least one civilian aircraft shot out of the sky by Russians.

foverzar 3y ago

So you assume.

kmonsen 3y ago

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1240400/maternal-mortality-rates-worldwide-by-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1240400/maternal-mortali... The US maternal death rate is sky high for a western country with reliable statistics.