This seems to just support my criticism, though? Even without the drivers, it is still a big number, but is literally less than half the lines of code shown be

This seems to just support my criticism, though? Even without the drivers, it is still a big number, but is literally less than half the lines of code shown before? Why inflate what you show just to get an absurd comparison? I think many are misunderstanding my criticism here. I offer it more as a way to strengthen the message than I do to question it entirely. To that end, the only "goal post shift" I would add is to ask how many of the 17 million lines of driver code have to be done for Hurd to support hardware that would make it more relevant for a ton of users?