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> As said before, in this tutorial we will be using Manjaro due to it: > * containing a fully configured system (yes bloat, idc its a beginners tutorial) So i

> As said before, in this tutorial we will be using Manjaro due to it: > * containing a fully configured system (yes bloat, idc its a beginners tutorial) So is it for beginners or power users? Or can that be the same person? Choice of Manjaro is also curious, considering its history.

dingnuts 3y ago
it's for power users of proprietary OSes who are beginners to Linux
artisanspam 3y ago
> considering its history Can you elaborate?
- tenacious_tuna 3y ago
  I don't know everything, but I do know they've let their HTTPS cert expire a few times [1], and they apparently delay package updates from upstream for like 1wk for "stability" reasons... which doesn't really add any stability, and just slows down releases. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/wr2dps/manjaro_let_their_ssl_cert_expire_again/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/wr2dps/manjaro_let_t...
  - RealStickman_ 3y ago
    The package delays also apply to security updates btw. There's no procedure to get them in faster. Ironically, on mobile Manjaro has shipped unstable and WIP patches, leading to issues and annoyed maintainers [0] 0. https://dont-ship.it/ https://dont-ship.it/
- heavyset_go 3y ago
  It's amateur hour over at Manjaro. They've pushed breaking updates, insecure settings, etc. Their infrastructure is poor, as well.
- firen777 3y ago
  https://web.archive.org/web/20230708070056/https://manjarno.snorlax.sh/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230708070056/https://manjarno.... (original domain expired) https://github.com/arindas/manjarno https://github.com/arindas/manjarno
bil7 3y ago
You can drop in replace Manjaro with EndeavourOS to achieve Arch on easy mode these days.
- pxc 3y ago
  Arch has easy mode built in¹ these days. -- 1: https://github.com/archlinux/archinstall https://github.com/archlinux/archinstall
  - ArisakaDJB 3y ago
    I must've used this a dozen times in the last few months helping friends. It never fails to amaze me. Has options like a btrfs layout with sane defaults, choice of DE and Tiling, etc. I'm writing this from an installation I made today using it.
freedomben 3y ago
> So is it for beginners or power users? Or can that be the same person? Reasonable and good question. I tend to see that as orthogonal (but with some overlap) as "power user" is more of a mindset to me.
- benbenolson 3y ago
  I see it as "power user" meaning "a power user of Windows."

dingnuts 3y ago

it's for power users of proprietary OSes who are beginners to Linux

artisanspam 3y ago

> considering its history Can you elaborate?

tenacious_tuna 3y ago
I don't know everything, but I do know they've let their HTTPS cert expire a few times [1], and they apparently delay package updates from upstream for like 1wk for "stability" reasons... which doesn't really add any stability, and just slows down releases. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/wr2dps/manjaro_let_their_ssl_cert_expire_again/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/wr2dps/manjaro_let_t...
- RealStickman_ 3y ago
  The package delays also apply to security updates btw. There's no procedure to get them in faster. Ironically, on mobile Manjaro has shipped unstable and WIP patches, leading to issues and annoyed maintainers [0] 0. https://dont-ship.it/ https://dont-ship.it/
heavyset_go 3y ago
It's amateur hour over at Manjaro. They've pushed breaking updates, insecure settings, etc. Their infrastructure is poor, as well.
firen777 3y ago
https://web.archive.org/web/20230708070056/https://manjarno.snorlax.sh/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230708070056/https://manjarno.... (original domain expired) https://github.com/arindas/manjarno https://github.com/arindas/manjarno

bil7 3y ago

You can drop in replace Manjaro with EndeavourOS to achieve Arch on easy mode these days.

pxc 3y ago
Arch has easy mode built in¹ these days. -- 1: https://github.com/archlinux/archinstall https://github.com/archlinux/archinstall
- ArisakaDJB 3y ago
  I must've used this a dozen times in the last few months helping friends. It never fails to amaze me. Has options like a btrfs layout with sane defaults, choice of DE and Tiling, etc. I'm writing this from an installation I made today using it.

freedomben 3y ago

> So is it for beginners or power users? Or can that be the same person? Reasonable and good question. I tend to see that as orthogonal (but with some overlap) as "power user" is more of a mindset to me.

benbenolson 3y ago
I see it as "power user" meaning "a power user of Windows."