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You're right -- we need to have a way to make conversations fully private for logged in users. We'll work on this and will introduce more options for data priva
by rushingcreek 3y ago
You're right -- we need to have a way to make conversations fully private for logged in users. We'll work on this and will introduce more options for data privacy. Please feel free to reach out to me at michael@phind.com to chat further.
That said, no Phind links will be indexed unless you actively share the link to your conversation on an indexable site (like Twitter), which implies that you wish the link to be public anyway. I assure you that this is not an intentional dark pattern.
- soultrees 3y agoUntil this happens and until you can verify that you’re not indexing every conversation to the open web, this is enough for me to full-stop using your service. I was under no impression whatsoever that the threads were made public.
- rushingcreek 3y agoWe're not indexing every conversation to the open web. We've only seen this happen for threads that are deliberately shared publicly by the user. Please feel free to reach out to me personally at michael@phind.com and I'd be happy to discuss this further.
- ssgodderidge 3y agoIt’s a lot easier to start with privacy as a focus. It’s a lot harder to plug up all the holes after a public launch. Looking forward to a lot of public updates! Repost back on HN when you all have resolved and I’ll start using the tool again.
- TekMol 3y agoNot only for logged in users. Even more so for users who are not logged in. I find it very surprising that I type something into your service and that gets hosted on the open internet for everybody to see. And as a logged out user, I have no way to ever delete it. For logged out users, you really should not store the input at all.
- userbinator 3y agoI find it very surprising that I type something into your service and that gets hosted on the open internet for everybody to see. Did you expect anything else from an Internet-based cloud service? In fact, you just did that on this site, but I doubt you thought it's surprising?
- Tommstein 3y agoHe's logged in here and expressly conversing in public. You are comparing apples to nuclear reactors.
- acedTrex 3y agoI mean, you should never type something on any free site you don't expect to be made public. That's an assumption on your part that is dangerous.
- dingnuts 3y agoReally? You've never typed anything embarrassing into Google Search, like medical queries?
- nerpderp82 3y agoThis isn't the posters line of reasoning at all, please don't derail the conversation with posts like this.
- rushingcreek 3y agoNo Phind links will be indexed or become easy to view for anyone else unless you share it on an indexable site (like Twitter), which implies that you're willing to make it public anyway. That said, we will add controls for this.
- ghayes 3y agoNot sure I believe in 'security by not finding the link'-- links get leaked through a variety of means that don't imply consent (e.g. browser history, metadata requests, or reshares).