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Blockchain would not be the right tech if you don't need decentralised trust. Write once media on a server is what you want.

landemva 3y ago
> Write once media ... Like publishing merkle tree hash in a few daily newspapers.
humanizersequel 3y ago
>Write once media on a server is what you want How does that solve this problem: >[company will] go out of business and take down the servers with it
- roncesvalles 3y ago
  Open-source it, publish it somewhere or make it a bittorrent. Using blockchain as a hosting solution feels like a misuse.
- tracker1 3y ago
  distributed public key, and a private-signed hash of the dataset.
  - px43 3y ago
    How do you know that the dataset is the most up to date version? Maybe some sort of globally distributed time-stamping mechanism? Oh hey look, it's a blockchain.
    - tracker1 3y ago
      Or... the source of record can publish an xml file or something when there's updates to the signed diff... rss. No slow consensus model needed. If you aren't in an adversarial context with multiple publishers, you don't need blockchain.
      - px43 3y ago
        > source of record How is this published? On a single server somewhere? What country would you put it in? A friendly one I hope. Also one that won't block access to other countries that it might have petty disagreements with in the future. It might be a good idea for it to be replicated across a number of servers across the internet. We call those "nodes" in the blockchain space.
        ahtihn 3y ago
        > We call those "nodes" in the blockchain space. Mirrors existed long before blockchain.
        tracker1 3y ago
        Blockchain, the new uber-tech-hammer.. everyone gets nailed.
tracker1 3y ago
Or even a signed hash against a confirmed/known/distributed public key. Blockchain is only useful in a decentralized + adversarial context where there is a need to remove one-another's ability to game a given system. And even then, it doesn't imply a perfect security around it. Since it won't stop theft, breach, scams or other vectors.
dsco 3y ago
Are there any frameworks/platforms for this?
- h4kor 3y ago
  have you heard of txt files? If you want to proof you didn't temper with the historic data, publish a daily hash in some newspapers.
  - vvpan 3y ago
    Actually I would say that that is exactly what blockchain does, except as a protocol and relying on a network rather than a newspaper. Actually I might use this to explain blockchain to people on a base level.
  - tornato7 3y ago
    So you're suggesting that publishing a hash in a newspaper every day is a better solution than a digital ledger? This is peak buttcoiner logic. That actually used to be done [1], because Blockchain are valuable, but not anymore because digital versions are more scalable, efficient, reliable, global, trustless etc. Etc. 1. https://www.newsbtc.com/news/bitcoin/first-instance-of-blockchain-discovered-in-new-york-times-circa-1995/ https://www.newsbtc.com/news/bitcoin/first-instance-of-block...
- namdnay 3y ago
  Git?

landemva 3y ago

> Write once media ... Like publishing merkle tree hash in a few daily newspapers.

humanizersequel 3y ago

>Write once media on a server is what you want How does that solve this problem: >[company will] go out of business and take down the servers with it

roncesvalles 3y ago
Open-source it, publish it somewhere or make it a bittorrent. Using blockchain as a hosting solution feels like a misuse.
tracker1 3y ago
distributed public key, and a private-signed hash of the dataset.
- px43 3y ago
  How do you know that the dataset is the most up to date version? Maybe some sort of globally distributed time-stamping mechanism? Oh hey look, it's a blockchain.
  - tracker1 3y ago
    Or... the source of record can publish an xml file or something when there's updates to the signed diff... rss. No slow consensus model needed. If you aren't in an adversarial context with multiple publishers, you don't need blockchain.
    - px43 3y ago
      > source of record How is this published? On a single server somewhere? What country would you put it in? A friendly one I hope. Also one that won't block access to other countries that it might have petty disagreements with in the future. It might be a good idea for it to be replicated across a number of servers across the internet. We call those "nodes" in the blockchain space.
      - ahtihn 3y ago
        > We call those "nodes" in the blockchain space. Mirrors existed long before blockchain.
        tracker1 3y ago
        Blockchain, the new uber-tech-hammer.. everyone gets nailed.

tracker1 3y ago

Or even a signed hash against a confirmed/known/distributed public key. Blockchain is only useful in a decentralized + adversarial context where there is a need to remove one-another's ability to game a given system. And even then, it doesn't imply a perfect security around it. Since it won't stop theft, breach, scams or other vectors.

dsco 3y ago

Are there any frameworks/platforms for this?

h4kor 3y ago
have you heard of txt files? If you want to proof you didn't temper with the historic data, publish a daily hash in some newspapers.
- vvpan 3y ago
  Actually I would say that that is exactly what blockchain does, except as a protocol and relying on a network rather than a newspaper. Actually I might use this to explain blockchain to people on a base level.
- tornato7 3y ago
  So you're suggesting that publishing a hash in a newspaper every day is a better solution than a digital ledger? This is peak buttcoiner logic. That actually used to be done [1], because Blockchain are valuable, but not anymore because digital versions are more scalable, efficient, reliable, global, trustless etc. Etc. 1. https://www.newsbtc.com/news/bitcoin/first-instance-of-blockchain-discovered-in-new-york-times-circa-1995/ https://www.newsbtc.com/news/bitcoin/first-instance-of-block...
namdnay 3y ago
Git?