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Gas? Yes. Electric? Eh, if you are smart enough to program a computer, you are smart enough to read and learn how to do electric properly.

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bombcar 3y ago
They're all pretty safe if you read up on them (and how to test them afterwards) - often, the person you hire ends up having about a week's more training anyway. But if you're uncertain, find a trusted friend or hire someone. Plumbing waste water is the one that skeeves me out.
wpietri 3y ago
I knew a very smart guy with an attitude like that. He decided to run the electric wiring for an artist's co-op he made out of surplus shipping containers. When the city inspectors eventually popped by for a surprise visit, it was so far from code compliant that they pulled his electric meter on the spot. Being very smart, he was sure he was in the right, so I hear he fought with the city for years over it, in the meantime layering on his home-grown solar and biomass gasification generator. I'm not sure if he ever got back in compliance. I would encourage anybody going this route to have early discussions with a licensed electrician. A lot of code compliance stuff is non-obvious. It's what you get when you start with smart people and then add a hundred years of experience.
- irrational 3y ago
  Hopefully you are reading and learning from the same place licensed electricians are learning from. Sounds like this guy didn't go to the right sources.
  - wpietri 3y ago
    A lot of their learning is from experience.
    - wpietri 3y ago
      Which, I should add, is true of most professions, including software development. If a non-developer jumped in to make an app, it would be miraculous if the app and the code base were up to the standards of a seasoned app developer.
Freak_NL 3y ago
There was a comment here claiming that doing your own wiring is illegal in the Netherlands, but it was (rightly) deleted. It is completely legal to do. I do my own wiring too; it's not hard to do this safely in most of Europe.
- tinco 3y ago
  If I'm not mistaken about a year after I installed the gas heater it became illegal to install your gas heater, so they weren't completely wrong.

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bombcar 3y ago

They're all pretty safe if you read up on them (and how to test them afterwards) - often, the person you hire ends up having about a week's more training anyway. But if you're uncertain, find a trusted friend or hire someone. Plumbing waste water is the one that skeeves me out.

wpietri 3y ago

I knew a very smart guy with an attitude like that. He decided to run the electric wiring for an artist's co-op he made out of surplus shipping containers. When the city inspectors eventually popped by for a surprise visit, it was so far from code compliant that they pulled his electric meter on the spot. Being very smart, he was sure he was in the right, so I hear he fought with the city for years over it, in the meantime layering on his home-grown solar and biomass gasification generator. I'm not sure if he ever got back in compliance. I would encourage anybody going this route to have early discussions with a licensed electrician. A lot of code compliance stuff is non-obvious. It's what you get when you start with smart people and then add a hundred years of experience.

irrational 3y ago
Hopefully you are reading and learning from the same place licensed electricians are learning from. Sounds like this guy didn't go to the right sources.
- wpietri 3y ago
  A lot of their learning is from experience.
  - wpietri 3y ago
    Which, I should add, is true of most professions, including software development. If a non-developer jumped in to make an app, it would be miraculous if the app and the code base were up to the standards of a seasoned app developer.

Freak_NL 3y ago

There was a comment here claiming that doing your own wiring is illegal in the Netherlands, but it was (rightly) deleted. It is completely legal to do. I do my own wiring too; it's not hard to do this safely in most of Europe.

tinco 3y ago
If I'm not mistaken about a year after I installed the gas heater it became illegal to install your gas heater, so they weren't completely wrong.