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If you're interested in the ways in which especially women receive strident pushback in a way that trains them to self-censor, I'd suggest reading Manne's "Down
by wpietri 3y ago
If you're interested in the ways in which especially women receive strident pushback in a way that trains them to self-censor, I'd suggest reading Manne's "Down Girl: the logic of misogyny". She's an analytic philosophy professor, so it's a bit academic in spots. But I think it does a good job cataloging the many ways in which women are put "in their place", a place that very much includes a lot of self-censorship.
- gary_0 3y agoWhat you're talking about is a real thing (I've seen its effect on women in my life) but I'd prefer to take Julia's post at face value, which shows her as someone with a quiet enthusiasm for tech who doesn't enjoy pointless Internet arguments. Honestly, we could probably do with more people like that.
- hobomatic 3y ago[flagged]
- wpietri 3y agoIf your point is that life's hard, or that patriarchy is also bad for men, I certainly agree. But neither of those prevents me from recognizing the specific ways that patriarchy is bad for women. Indeed, you might consider that a guy leaping in to a point about misogyny to tangentially focus the discussion back on a man's feelings is an example of the problem.