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> At a lot of jobs I've dealt with using contractors, there was an internal concern that people external "didn't care" enough. How do you plan on addressing thi
by hzia 3y ago
> At a lot of jobs I've dealt with using contractors, there was an internal concern that people external "didn't care" enough. How do you plan on addressing this concern?
That’s correct. Either you are a full time employee, or you get second-class culture even if you are part of internal slack. It’s very hard to get external contractors to be excited when they dont get the swag / on-sites and share the culture.
Which is why we want to have devs belong first class citizens in the GitStart Community, and join all hands / game nights and learn from others. And our integrations push through PRs and all the updates to engineering teams.
- pard68 3y agoI gave up a high-end consultancy job because I felt like I had no ownership. But I know others at that job who love that they can help lots of different orgs. I think this mindset is just one you either have or don't have.
- Zanfa 3y ago> It’s very hard to get external contractors to be excited when they dont get the swag / on-sites and share the culture. It’s not the lack of swag or on-sites. Companies usually outsource to cut costs, so there’s your problem. Also, I’m not convinced there’s correlation between being “excited” about a company and producing good quality results.
- hzia 3y agoI agree with you that one does not have to be excited to ship production quality results. I was previously referring to the 'external "didn't care" enough' which is generally true, and IMO not an inherently bad thing on its own But I am not sure outsourcing to cut costs is happening as much now than a few years ago. The entire outsourcing tech market is shrinking, as most teams prefer to keep devs in-house than to outsource it away.