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What about the public transport? I've never bothered to learn how to drive, and it's never impacted my life here one bit.

curiousgal 3y ago
I love it too but my god is it loud!
shakow 3y ago
What about it? Is it not the run-of-the-mill Western European capital transport network?
- dukeyukey 3y ago
  At 250 miles of track, it covers a much greater area than any other European (sans Russia) capital. The second largest is Madrid at 180 miles, and Paris is 140 miles.
  - shakow 3y ago
    > Paris is 140 miles That's only the subway; a better comparison would include at least parts of the RER network, which covers 360 miles; let's say half of that in a range comparable to London subway. And London is much more spread out than Paris, so comparing mileage is not a very interesting metric. Subway station density is another one where London “loses”. Personally, I found London subway OK, with stations a bit too far away for my taste. The bus network however is better than in Paris, especially their frequency of passage.
  - LeonB 3y ago
    But Paris has those modern, wide boulevards that are far more walkable, for strolling Parisians, and marching armies alike.
sdfghswe 3y ago
My opinion is that the tube is excellent that it exists because I _can_ take it somewhere, but I hate the experience. I hate the experience and doing it every day is soul sucking. I grant you it's not as bad as the experience of not being able to go where you want.
helsinkiandrew 3y ago
> What about the public transport? And the museums, theatres, cinemas, galleries, pubs, clubs, restaurants, markets, festivals, parks etc. But if you don't use any of those then London is just a noisy, dirty, expensive hell - you might as well live in the suburbs somewhere
- sdfghswe 3y ago
  All things that you can find in any European capital, and I don't go to most of those anyway.
  - dukeyukey 3y ago
    That's your problem then, you're not doing in London the things people move to London for. I don't blame you for disliking London if you're not doing the things London excels at!
dbbk 3y ago
The public transport is fine. I wouldn't say it's a particularly appealing aspect.

curiousgal 3y ago

I love it too but my god is it loud!

shakow 3y ago

What about it? Is it not the run-of-the-mill Western European capital transport network?

dukeyukey 3y ago
At 250 miles of track, it covers a much greater area than any other European (sans Russia) capital. The second largest is Madrid at 180 miles, and Paris is 140 miles.
- shakow 3y ago
  > Paris is 140 miles That's only the subway; a better comparison would include at least parts of the RER network, which covers 360 miles; let's say half of that in a range comparable to London subway. And London is much more spread out than Paris, so comparing mileage is not a very interesting metric. Subway station density is another one where London “loses”. Personally, I found London subway OK, with stations a bit too far away for my taste. The bus network however is better than in Paris, especially their frequency of passage.
- LeonB 3y ago
  But Paris has those modern, wide boulevards that are far more walkable, for strolling Parisians, and marching armies alike.

sdfghswe 3y ago

My opinion is that the tube is excellent that it exists because I _can_ take it somewhere, but I hate the experience. I hate the experience and doing it every day is soul sucking. I grant you it's not as bad as the experience of not being able to go where you want.

helsinkiandrew 3y ago

> What about the public transport? And the museums, theatres, cinemas, galleries, pubs, clubs, restaurants, markets, festivals, parks etc. But if you don't use any of those then London is just a noisy, dirty, expensive hell - you might as well live in the suburbs somewhere

sdfghswe 3y ago
All things that you can find in any European capital, and I don't go to most of those anyway.
- dukeyukey 3y ago
  That's your problem then, you're not doing in London the things people move to London for. I don't blame you for disliking London if you're not doing the things London excels at!

dbbk 3y ago

The public transport is fine. I wouldn't say it's a particularly appealing aspect.