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Huh someone decided to be a writer I see. I see a ton of people around me that are writers, music producers, actors and so on. They all claim that they are in

by msoad 3y ago

Huh someone decided to be a writer I see. I see a ton of people around me that are writers, music producers, actors and so on. They all claim that they are in their first years of their careers and they need more time to be successful at a scale that makes it worth spending their life doing it. The way I see it is that those people have the luxury of not having to worry about money too much and enjoy not being responsible for a boss or customer for fruits of their labor. They all can claim they are Franz Kafka waiting to be discovered later

2-718-281-828 3y ago
the most questionable part of the attitude you describe is the construction of a self-image based on external validation instead of intrinsic authenticity. i'm sure even kafka had an ego and enjoyed the attention he got through his writing and maybe even had some literary heros but i would guess that the level of his infatuation was significantly lower than that of many people having grown up with social media. it just messes with one's personality if it is the result of reinforcement learning based on likes.
- insickness 3y ago
  I think it's the opposite. At least external validation gives you a real-world indicator of how close to success you are.
  - 2-718-281-828 3y ago
    legends like kafka didn't write to find an audience. they wrote what mattered to them and that happened to find an audience.
- glimshe 3y ago
  There are 2 problems here: validation of your self-image and the acquisition of resources for living. I can see your argument about the first problem, but the writer/artist still needs to find a way to produce things that others will trade for energy, food, healthcare, housing, art supplies, etc. I've always wanted to be a musician, but unfortunately, I didn't have the means to do that without paying customers and I was never good enough to get paying customers because I'm not good enough. Thus the parent's point about needing to be rich for that.

by msoad 3y ago

2-718-281-828 3y ago

the most questionable part of the attitude you describe is the construction of a self-image based on external validation instead of intrinsic authenticity. i'm sure even kafka had an ego and enjoyed the attention he got through his writing and maybe even had some literary heros but i would guess that the level of his infatuation was significantly lower than that of many people having grown up with social media. it just messes with one's personality if it is the result of reinforcement learning based on likes.

insickness 3y ago
I think it's the opposite. At least external validation gives you a real-world indicator of how close to success you are.
- 2-718-281-828 3y ago
  legends like kafka didn't write to find an audience. they wrote what mattered to them and that happened to find an audience.
glimshe 3y ago
There are 2 problems here: validation of your self-image and the acquisition of resources for living. I can see your argument about the first problem, but the writer/artist still needs to find a way to produce things that others will trade for energy, food, healthcare, housing, art supplies, etc. I've always wanted to be a musician, but unfortunately, I didn't have the means to do that without paying customers and I was never good enough to get paying customers because I'm not good enough. Thus the parent's point about needing to be rich for that.