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If I learn something from your StackOverflow answers, do you expect me to share a percentage of my future salary with you?

by p-e-w 3y ago

terrytanys 3y ago
It is not learning, it is about publishing.
croes 3y ago
Can you share your knowledge with millions at once? If so, then pay.
- p-e-w 3y ago
  So there's an infinite pyramid of "who learned what from who", and payment flows upwards along the hierarchy, all the way back to people who are long dead, and then down to their descendants who presumably inherited their "knowledge rights"? You can't be serious. Thank god our world doesn't work like that.
  - croes 3y ago
    It's not about who learned what from whom, it's about superstar economy. If you serve all customers and leave nothing for the rest, it will be a problem. What do you think why writers and actors have included AI in the reasons of their strike?
    - p-e-w 3y ago
      > What do you think why writers and actors have included AI in the reasons of their strike? Because they are about to become obsolete, and they believe that screaming as loudly as they can is going to stop that. Their chances of success are roughly the same as if they were protesting against the law of gravity.
      - vintermann 3y ago
        Not as obsolete as their bosses/owners have long been. We make our own rules. We decide what to allow and what to value. If technology changes something, it's because we let it.
      - scrollaway 3y ago
        The fun part about being a strong believer of AI and actually understanding its capacities is being able to tell when people are completely blinded by hype. AI will not make writers “obsolete”, that is utterly absurd. Would you say reality TV made tv writers obsolete? No? Oh well. You get what you pay for. That includes what you pay for as a producer…
        p-e-w 3y ago
        > AI will not make writers “obsolete”, that is utterly absurd. Of course. And those so-called "computers" won't make human calculators obsolete. After all, they are as large as an entire room, and by the time they are ready to receive input, a human with his slide rule has already computed three and a half entire logarithms! Human creative professions have 5-10 years left, if they are very lucky.
        lancesells 3y ago
        > Human creative professions have 5-10 years left, if they are very lucky. So in that sense do developers have ~2 years left? Code is much more rigid than acting or creative writing and AI seems to be getting there first. I mean if the all-powerful AI can make modern movies than clearly it can handle writing all code right?
        evandale 3y ago
        Call me crazy, but the AI generated Seinfeld brought me more entertainment in the last 6 months than anything Netflix has produced in the last year. I think they're _very_ worried and rightfully so. I assume it would be very difficult to cancel an AI.
- tick_tock_tick 3y ago
  I mean yes? Answer a bunch of stackoverflow questions and you'll hit that.
- golol 3y ago
  > Can you share your knowledge with millions at once? Yes, I might run a course or something. You are still not entitled to pay.
- ben_w 3y ago
  Isn't that what everyone who writes on the internet does with every tweet, toot, blog post, vlog, podcast, short, reel, and comment?
lewhoo 3y ago
But are you human or not ? Because rights and laws that apply to humans do not necessarily apply to objects and vice versa. I don't expect a building permit from you when you stand on a piece of land. LLM's aren't legal entities in the formal sense, are they ?
gdprrrr 3y ago
SO answers are explicitly licensed under CC-BY-SA 2.5/3/4, depending on the time it was posted https://stackoverflow.com/help/licensing https://stackoverflow.com/help/licensing. So no.

If I learn something from your StackOverflow answers, do you expect me to share a percentage of my future salary with you?

by p-e-w 3y ago

If I learn something from your StackOverflow answers, do you expect me to share a percentage of my future salary with you?

terrytanys 3y ago

It is not learning, it is about publishing.

croes 3y ago

Can you share your knowledge with millions at once? If so, then pay.

p-e-w 3y ago
So there's an infinite pyramid of "who learned what from who", and payment flows upwards along the hierarchy, all the way back to people who are long dead, and then down to their descendants who presumably inherited their "knowledge rights"? You can't be serious. Thank god our world doesn't work like that.
- croes 3y ago
  It's not about who learned what from whom, it's about superstar economy. If you serve all customers and leave nothing for the rest, it will be a problem. What do you think why writers and actors have included AI in the reasons of their strike?
  - p-e-w 3y ago
    > What do you think why writers and actors have included AI in the reasons of their strike? Because they are about to become obsolete, and they believe that screaming as loudly as they can is going to stop that. Their chances of success are roughly the same as if they were protesting against the law of gravity.
    - vintermann 3y ago
      Not as obsolete as their bosses/owners have long been. We make our own rules. We decide what to allow and what to value. If technology changes something, it's because we let it.
    - scrollaway 3y ago
      The fun part about being a strong believer of AI and actually understanding its capacities is being able to tell when people are completely blinded by hype. AI will not make writers “obsolete”, that is utterly absurd. Would you say reality TV made tv writers obsolete? No? Oh well. You get what you pay for. That includes what you pay for as a producer…
      - p-e-w 3y ago
        > AI will not make writers “obsolete”, that is utterly absurd. Of course. And those so-called "computers" won't make human calculators obsolete. After all, they are as large as an entire room, and by the time they are ready to receive input, a human with his slide rule has already computed three and a half entire logarithms! Human creative professions have 5-10 years left, if they are very lucky.
        lancesells 3y ago
        > Human creative professions have 5-10 years left, if they are very lucky. So in that sense do developers have ~2 years left? Code is much more rigid than acting or creative writing and AI seems to be getting there first. I mean if the all-powerful AI can make modern movies than clearly it can handle writing all code right?
      - evandale 3y ago
        Call me crazy, but the AI generated Seinfeld brought me more entertainment in the last 6 months than anything Netflix has produced in the last year. I think they're _very_ worried and rightfully so. I assume it would be very difficult to cancel an AI.
tick_tock_tick 3y ago
I mean yes? Answer a bunch of stackoverflow questions and you'll hit that.
golol 3y ago
> Can you share your knowledge with millions at once? Yes, I might run a course or something. You are still not entitled to pay.
ben_w 3y ago
Isn't that what everyone who writes on the internet does with every tweet, toot, blog post, vlog, podcast, short, reel, and comment?

lewhoo 3y ago

But are you human or not ? Because rights and laws that apply to humans do not necessarily apply to objects and vice versa. I don't expect a building permit from you when you stand on a piece of land. LLM's aren't legal entities in the formal sense, are they ?

gdprrrr 3y ago

SO answers are explicitly licensed under CC-BY-SA 2.5/3/4, depending on the time it was posted https://stackoverflow.com/help/licensing https://stackoverflow.com/help/licensing. So no.