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> All six known reports of false arrests due to facial recognition technology were made by Black people. It's fascinating how sample size differs based on who

> All six known reports of false arrests due to facial recognition technology were made by Black people. It's fascinating how sample size differs based on who wants what policy to be enacted. What are the false arrest rates due to people just looking at a picture and thinking "That's the one"?

andirk 3y ago
Without comparing to more common forms of ID, I don't see how this data proves much at all. Furthermore, with a large black population like Baltimore, if they mostly ran the software on black people, then yeah the false IDs will also be mostly black people.
- gopher_space 3y ago
  It means their software is garbage and lawsuits will follow. Using this software moving forward is probably a bad idea since we know that it’s broken.
  - fastaccount123 3y ago
    Does it? I don't want to let the cops off the hook here. The previous commenter suggested a mechanically plausible way: "decent software used in a racist way" would have the above problem
    - 6D794163636F756 3y ago
      Unfortunately in America it is very difficult to sue or otherwise obtain redress of grievance when the perpetrator of an act is a police officer. It is almost certainly easier to sue the company to stop the software's use than sue the police to stop them from using it.
      - shkkmo 3y ago
        Not sure why this is being downvoted. This is a factually accurate description of an issue highly relevant to the topic. If you aren't aware of the specifics, research "qualified immunity" , a legal doctrine that was not passed into law but invented by the courts to shield police from the consequences of violating your civil rights.
      - throwaway894345 3y ago
        I’m of the impression that it’s relatively easy to sue, but that the municipality will just settle for millions and not fire the police officer lest they incur the wrath of the police union.
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andirk 3y ago

Without comparing to more common forms of ID, I don't see how this data proves much at all. Furthermore, with a large black population like Baltimore, if they mostly ran the software on black people, then yeah the false IDs will also be mostly black people.

gopher_space 3y ago
It means their software is garbage and lawsuits will follow. Using this software moving forward is probably a bad idea since we know that it’s broken.
- fastaccount123 3y ago
  Does it? I don't want to let the cops off the hook here. The previous commenter suggested a mechanically plausible way: "decent software used in a racist way" would have the above problem
  - 6D794163636F756 3y ago
    Unfortunately in America it is very difficult to sue or otherwise obtain redress of grievance when the perpetrator of an act is a police officer. It is almost certainly easier to sue the company to stop the software's use than sue the police to stop them from using it.
    - shkkmo 3y ago
      Not sure why this is being downvoted. This is a factually accurate description of an issue highly relevant to the topic. If you aren't aware of the specifics, research "qualified immunity" , a legal doctrine that was not passed into law but invented by the courts to shield police from the consequences of violating your civil rights.
    - throwaway894345 3y ago
      I’m of the impression that it’s relatively easy to sue, but that the municipality will just settle for millions and not fire the police officer lest they incur the wrath of the police union.

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