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Musk first wanted to fight Putin then he challenged Zuck. One should think that when you are the one challenging others left and right to fight in the oktagon,

Musk first wanted to fight Putin then he challenged Zuck. One should think that when you are the one challenging others left and right to fight in the oktagon, you do it while at the peak of your physical form. But of course everything can happen and you have to respect a champion like Musk. A champion at running his mouth, that is. If the fight happens and it’s not a farce it will end up like Khabib vs. McGregor

rowanG077 3y ago
Musk is way too smart to run into this fight without training. It's simply completely insane to expect this fight to happen with 3 weeks.
- JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
  > > Musk is way too smart Is this your rational stance or you just want it to be true? Maybe because you are emotionally attached to SpaceX and Tesla?
  - rowanG077 3y ago
    Is this a serious response? I have no attachment to any company Musk owns. I own/use not a single product they have made. Maybe, just maybe, it's you who is irrational here. Disliking a person you will never interact with because he has done a few things you disagree with. The guy has a double degree in physics and economics. The guy whose companies single handedly upended the car industry. The guy whose companies build the first viable reuseable rockets. Musk is definitely a weirdo. But denying his intelligence is wildly stupid.
    - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
      Reagan, Bush and Trump were even more successful as they were at the helm of a 400M people country with a 20T GDP Tesla is what? A 80,000 people company with 90bn in revenue? Peanuts compared to the United States of America. Point is you cannot hide behind your title, sooner or later you have to sit in a room with other people and you have to speak, and if you say idiotic things people are gonna notice and call you out and you'll get exposed. That's exactly what happened in the last 3 years with Musk. There's a reason why the saying 'The emperor has no clothes' is so popular, it's because something like this happened thosands of times throughout history. Guy gets incredible and once in a lifetime tailwind, gets a title and sits on it. People from all over the place come to meet the man with the unique title anticipating a world-shattering intellect/charisma or what have you and in the end they realize it was just a guy who had incredible tailwinds after all
      - rowanG077 3y ago
        > Reagan, Bush and Trump were even more successful as they were at the helm of a 400M people country with a 20T GDP Are you joking here? None of them are even remotely as successful as Musk. A president is not the founder of a country. It's incomparable. > Tesla is what? A 80,000 people company with 90bn in revenue? Peanuts compared to the United States of America. You forget SpaceX, Neuralink, Boring company, Twitter, Paypal, OpenAI. > Point is you cannot hide behind your title, sooner or later you have to get in a room with other people and you have to speak, and if you say idiotic things people are gonna notice and call you out and you'll get exposed. > That's exactly what happened in the last 3 years with Musk How is he exposed? Some internet haters are talking smack? Musk is swimming in money while his companies are racking up successes. If anything this makes the haters look even more irrational. What do you think it takes to create numerous highly successful companies? You don't need to talk to people to do that?
        JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
        > > Musk is swimming in money while his companies are racking up successes And by running his wide mouth he has proven the to the world that all of that is in spite of him, not because of him. It's the equivalent of pop-stars trying to write their own songs or improvising on stage. They are nothing without the structure that propelled them forward, similarly Musk is nothing without luck, had he kept his mouth shut he'd have at least managed to fool those who are not familiar with the concept of survivorship bias, and apparently you seem to be one of them. To be clear I believe all the above applies to every billionaire not just Musk.
    - cykotic 3y ago
      Musk is smart and a narcissist. He’s done more than a few things I disagree with and he’s done things that I think qualify for him to be called an asshole. Musk is and will forever be woefully underprepared to fight against someone with Mark’s training and level of fitness. His challenge to fight was childish and idiotic. Even smart people do idiotic things from time to time.
    - lilaa 3y ago
      Musk lied about his degree (sources: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1SZerKotu3YRHtuPyqeCa3RJBZX8t9NbVSpkLdbHfCpE/ https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1SZerKotu3YRHtuPyqeCa...) He's a grifter and a narcissist who was very good at throwing money at the right companies and taking credit as 'founder'. I guess he is 'smart' in some sense, but not the kind he likes to pretend to be.
      - rowanG077 3y ago
        This is total misinformation. UPenn confirmed themselves he holds physics and economics degrees https://www.plainsite.org/documents/tbdmox/2019-email-from-the-university-of-pennsylvania-confirming-elon-musks-physics-degree/ https://www.plainsite.org/documents/tbdmox/2019-email-from-t... It's just insane how Musk can spur such misinformation campaigns. It reminds me off the whole Obama birth certificate stuff. People are just not thinking right.
        defrost 3y ago
        That's, ahh, a Bachelor of Arts Physics degree. That comes from a broad liberal arts education and attending "Physics for non-physics people" lectures. He's seen the Foucalt's Pendulum and heavy pendulum swinging at the head demonstrations but never had to get into the weeds with tensor calculations or most of the material B.Sc Physics grads would consider essential. It's more physics than a History graduate would typically see, but less physics than, say, an Engineering graduate would be required to do. It's technically a Physics degree, sure, but it's easy to see how many STEM people wouldn't regard that as an actual Physics degree.
        rowanG077 3y ago
        I don't see why what you are talking about is relevant. I simply responded to the person saying he was spreading a fake story. Musk never claimed he had a Bachelor of Science in Physics as far as I know.
        defrost 3y ago
    - 3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
      None of this is relevant to the topic at hand. You’re like a North Korean news broadcaster reminding us all of Dear Leader’s infinite glory. You challenge someone to a fight, then talk over two months how it’s happening, it’s definitely happening, in August, it’ll happen, definitely happening, and then back out… because you were not given enough time?! Your economics degree and car company doesn’t change anything of that.
- mdwalters 3y ago
  He does have Jiu-jitsu training
- 3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
  If someone tells you “I challenge you to a cage fight”, tell me what timeline you think they have in mind. “I challenge you” and then we wait two years or what? Do you realize this makes no damn sense. Also Musk issued the challenge in June. Not today. Despite Zuckerberg not issuing the challenge, he gave Musk over two months to get his shit together and he clearly can’t.
  - valianteffort 3y ago
    To take the GP comments fight as an example, there was 64 days between when Khabib v McGregor was announced and their actual bout. Both camps knew there would be a fight and so consider negotations started at least one month prior to that. So both trained fighters had at least 90 days to prepare. Khabib however trains everyday, that is his life and he has done nothing else his whole life. Connor I'm not so sure but at a minimum he had the three months. These guys are elite, the best at their weight class, and they had three months. People here who have never had so much as an afterschool fight in their life thinking it takes a week to prepare for something.
    - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
      > > People here who have never had so much as an afterschool fight That is the perfect description of Musk, the only fighting experience he had was back when bullies used to beat him up in high school. And in retrospect, the bullies were right
  - rowanG077 3y ago
    > tell me what timeline you think they have in mind. The timeline that both contestants are available and content with? It's not like there is deadline. This is just some lighthearted fun. There is literally 0 reason to rush it.
    - 3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
      It's jerking around the media and the attention of everyone, and telling Zuckerberg to spend two months in gym with professionals preparing himself, only to then say "oh, I forgot I have a bad back, sorry". It may be lighthearted fun, for the most part, but it's a microcosm of the Musk condition. The guy is a deeply unserious person, who is always dead serious saying unserious things, and using everyone around him like a play-toy. The benefit of communication is to share facts and information with one another, so we can be less wrong together, so we can be more coordinated. Musk does the opposite. He aims to mislead, to confuse and to profit from the confusion.

rowanG077 3y ago

Musk is way too smart to run into this fight without training. It's simply completely insane to expect this fight to happen with 3 weeks.

JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
> > Musk is way too smart Is this your rational stance or you just want it to be true? Maybe because you are emotionally attached to SpaceX and Tesla?
- rowanG077 3y ago
  Is this a serious response? I have no attachment to any company Musk owns. I own/use not a single product they have made. Maybe, just maybe, it's you who is irrational here. Disliking a person you will never interact with because he has done a few things you disagree with. The guy has a double degree in physics and economics. The guy whose companies single handedly upended the car industry. The guy whose companies build the first viable reuseable rockets. Musk is definitely a weirdo. But denying his intelligence is wildly stupid.
  - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
    Reagan, Bush and Trump were even more successful as they were at the helm of a 400M people country with a 20T GDP Tesla is what? A 80,000 people company with 90bn in revenue? Peanuts compared to the United States of America. Point is you cannot hide behind your title, sooner or later you have to sit in a room with other people and you have to speak, and if you say idiotic things people are gonna notice and call you out and you'll get exposed. That's exactly what happened in the last 3 years with Musk. There's a reason why the saying 'The emperor has no clothes' is so popular, it's because something like this happened thosands of times throughout history. Guy gets incredible and once in a lifetime tailwind, gets a title and sits on it. People from all over the place come to meet the man with the unique title anticipating a world-shattering intellect/charisma or what have you and in the end they realize it was just a guy who had incredible tailwinds after all
    - rowanG077 3y ago
      > Reagan, Bush and Trump were even more successful as they were at the helm of a 400M people country with a 20T GDP Are you joking here? None of them are even remotely as successful as Musk. A president is not the founder of a country. It's incomparable. > Tesla is what? A 80,000 people company with 90bn in revenue? Peanuts compared to the United States of America. You forget SpaceX, Neuralink, Boring company, Twitter, Paypal, OpenAI. > Point is you cannot hide behind your title, sooner or later you have to get in a room with other people and you have to speak, and if you say idiotic things people are gonna notice and call you out and you'll get exposed. > That's exactly what happened in the last 3 years with Musk How is he exposed? Some internet haters are talking smack? Musk is swimming in money while his companies are racking up successes. If anything this makes the haters look even more irrational. What do you think it takes to create numerous highly successful companies? You don't need to talk to people to do that?
      - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
        > > Musk is swimming in money while his companies are racking up successes And by running his wide mouth he has proven the to the world that all of that is in spite of him, not because of him. It's the equivalent of pop-stars trying to write their own songs or improvising on stage. They are nothing without the structure that propelled them forward, similarly Musk is nothing without luck, had he kept his mouth shut he'd have at least managed to fool those who are not familiar with the concept of survivorship bias, and apparently you seem to be one of them. To be clear I believe all the above applies to every billionaire not just Musk.
  - cykotic 3y ago
    Musk is smart and a narcissist. He’s done more than a few things I disagree with and he’s done things that I think qualify for him to be called an asshole. Musk is and will forever be woefully underprepared to fight against someone with Mark’s training and level of fitness. His challenge to fight was childish and idiotic. Even smart people do idiotic things from time to time.
  - lilaa 3y ago
    Musk lied about his degree (sources: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1SZerKotu3YRHtuPyqeCa3RJBZX8t9NbVSpkLdbHfCpE/ https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1SZerKotu3YRHtuPyqeCa...) He's a grifter and a narcissist who was very good at throwing money at the right companies and taking credit as 'founder'. I guess he is 'smart' in some sense, but not the kind he likes to pretend to be.
    - rowanG077 3y ago
      This is total misinformation. UPenn confirmed themselves he holds physics and economics degrees https://www.plainsite.org/documents/tbdmox/2019-email-from-the-university-of-pennsylvania-confirming-elon-musks-physics-degree/ https://www.plainsite.org/documents/tbdmox/2019-email-from-t... It's just insane how Musk can spur such misinformation campaigns. It reminds me off the whole Obama birth certificate stuff. People are just not thinking right.
      - defrost 3y ago
        That's, ahh, a Bachelor of Arts Physics degree. That comes from a broad liberal arts education and attending "Physics for non-physics people" lectures. He's seen the Foucalt's Pendulum and heavy pendulum swinging at the head demonstrations but never had to get into the weeds with tensor calculations or most of the material B.Sc Physics grads would consider essential. It's more physics than a History graduate would typically see, but less physics than, say, an Engineering graduate would be required to do. It's technically a Physics degree, sure, but it's easy to see how many STEM people wouldn't regard that as an actual Physics degree.
        rowanG077 3y ago
        I don't see why what you are talking about is relevant. I simply responded to the person saying he was spreading a fake story. Musk never claimed he had a Bachelor of Science in Physics as far as I know.
        defrost 3y ago
  - 3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
    None of this is relevant to the topic at hand. You’re like a North Korean news broadcaster reminding us all of Dear Leader’s infinite glory. You challenge someone to a fight, then talk over two months how it’s happening, it’s definitely happening, in August, it’ll happen, definitely happening, and then back out… because you were not given enough time?! Your economics degree and car company doesn’t change anything of that.
mdwalters 3y ago
He does have Jiu-jitsu training
3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
If someone tells you “I challenge you to a cage fight”, tell me what timeline you think they have in mind. “I challenge you” and then we wait two years or what? Do you realize this makes no damn sense. Also Musk issued the challenge in June. Not today. Despite Zuckerberg not issuing the challenge, he gave Musk over two months to get his shit together and he clearly can’t.
- valianteffort 3y ago
  To take the GP comments fight as an example, there was 64 days between when Khabib v McGregor was announced and their actual bout. Both camps knew there would be a fight and so consider negotations started at least one month prior to that. So both trained fighters had at least 90 days to prepare. Khabib however trains everyday, that is his life and he has done nothing else his whole life. Connor I'm not so sure but at a minimum he had the three months. These guys are elite, the best at their weight class, and they had three months. People here who have never had so much as an afterschool fight in their life thinking it takes a week to prepare for something.
  - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
    > > People here who have never had so much as an afterschool fight That is the perfect description of Musk, the only fighting experience he had was back when bullies used to beat him up in high school. And in retrospect, the bullies were right
- rowanG077 3y ago
  > tell me what timeline you think they have in mind. The timeline that both contestants are available and content with? It's not like there is deadline. This is just some lighthearted fun. There is literally 0 reason to rush it.
  - 3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
    It's jerking around the media and the attention of everyone, and telling Zuckerberg to spend two months in gym with professionals preparing himself, only to then say "oh, I forgot I have a bad back, sorry". It may be lighthearted fun, for the most part, but it's a microcosm of the Musk condition. The guy is a deeply unserious person, who is always dead serious saying unserious things, and using everyone around him like a play-toy. The benefit of communication is to share facts and information with one another, so we can be less wrong together, so we can be more coordinated. Musk does the opposite. He aims to mislead, to confuse and to profit from the confusion.