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Fighters need adequate time to train, and Zuck has been at it for a couple years now. Trying to rush Elon into a bout without giving him reasonable time to prep

Fighters need adequate time to train, and Zuck has been at it for a couple years now. Trying to rush Elon into a bout without giving him reasonable time to prepare is a weak move. It's clear he isn't as confident as he should be. I expected this fight to take place by year end. That's more than enough time for Musk to whip himself into shape even at his age.

JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
Musk first wanted to fight Putin then he challenged Zuck. One should think that when you are the one challenging others left and right to fight in the oktagon, you do it while at the peak of your physical form. But of course everything can happen and you have to respect a champion like Musk. A champion at running his mouth, that is. If the fight happens and it’s not a farce it will end up like Khabib vs. McGregor
- rowanG077 3y ago
  Musk is way too smart to run into this fight without training. It's simply completely insane to expect this fight to happen with 3 weeks.
  - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
    > > Musk is way too smart Is this your rational stance or you just want it to be true? Maybe because you are emotionally attached to SpaceX and Tesla?
    - rowanG077 3y ago
      Is this a serious response? I have no attachment to any company Musk owns. I own/use not a single product they have made. Maybe, just maybe, it's you who is irrational here. Disliking a person you will never interact with because he has done a few things you disagree with. The guy has a double degree in physics and economics. The guy whose companies single handedly upended the car industry. The guy whose companies build the first viable reuseable rockets. Musk is definitely a weirdo. But denying his intelligence is wildly stupid.
      - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
        Reagan, Bush and Trump were even more successful as they were at the helm of a 400M people country with a 20T GDP Tesla is what? A 80,000 people company with 90bn in revenue? Peanuts compared to the United States of America. Point is you cannot hide behind your title, sooner or later you have to sit in a room with other people and you have to speak, and if you say idiotic things people are gonna notice and call you out and you'll get exposed. That's exactly what happened in the last 3 years with Musk. There's a reason why the saying 'The emperor has no clothes' is so popular, it's because something like this happened thosands of times throughout history. Guy gets incredible and once in a lifetime tailwind, gets a title and sits on it. People from all over the place come to meet the man with the unique title anticipating a world-shattering intellect/charisma or what have you and in the end they realize it was just a guy who had incredible tailwinds after all
        rowanG077 3y ago
        > Reagan, Bush and Trump were even more successful as they were at the helm of a 400M people country with a 20T GDP Are you joking here? None of them are even remotely as successful as Musk. A president is not the founder of a country. It's incomparable. > Tesla is what? A 80,000 people company with 90bn in revenue? Peanuts compared to the United States of America. You forget SpaceX, Neuralink, Boring company, Twitter, Paypal, OpenAI. > Point is you cannot hide behind your title, sooner or later you have to get in a room with other people and you have to speak, and if you say idiotic things people are gonna notice and call you out and you'll get exposed. > That's exactly what happened in the last 3 years with Musk How is he exposed? Some internet haters are talking smack? Musk is swimming in money while his companies are racking up successes. If anything this makes the haters look even more irrational. What do you think it takes to create numerous highly successful companies? You don't need to talk to people to do that?
        JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
        > > Musk is swimming in money while his companies are racking up successes And by running his wide mouth he has proven the to the world that all of that is in spite of him, not because of him. It's the equivalent of pop-stars trying to write their own songs or improvising on stage. They are nothing without the structure that propelled them forward, similarly Musk is nothing without luck, had he kept his mouth shut he'd have at least managed to fool those who are not familiar with the concept of survivorship bias, and apparently you seem to be one of them. To be clear I believe all the above applies to every billionaire not just Musk.
  - mdwalters 3y ago
    He does have Jiu-jitsu training
  - 3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
    If someone tells you “I challenge you to a cage fight”, tell me what timeline you think they have in mind. “I challenge you” and then we wait two years or what? Do you realize this makes no damn sense. Also Musk issued the challenge in June. Not today. Despite Zuckerberg not issuing the challenge, he gave Musk over two months to get his shit together and he clearly can’t.
    - valianteffort 3y ago
      To take the GP comments fight as an example, there was 64 days between when Khabib v McGregor was announced and their actual bout. Both camps knew there would be a fight and so consider negotations started at least one month prior to that. So both trained fighters had at least 90 days to prepare. Khabib however trains everyday, that is his life and he has done nothing else his whole life. Connor I'm not so sure but at a minimum he had the three months. These guys are elite, the best at their weight class, and they had three months. People here who have never had so much as an afterschool fight in their life thinking it takes a week to prepare for something.
      - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
        > > People here who have never had so much as an afterschool fight That is the perfect description of Musk, the only fighting experience he had was back when bullies used to beat him up in high school. And in retrospect, the bullies were right
    - rowanG077 3y ago
      > tell me what timeline you think they have in mind. The timeline that both contestants are available and content with? It's not like there is deadline. This is just some lighthearted fun. There is literally 0 reason to rush it.
      - 3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
        It's jerking around the media and the attention of everyone, and telling Zuckerberg to spend two months in gym with professionals preparing himself, only to then say "oh, I forgot I have a bad back, sorry". It may be lighthearted fun, for the most part, but it's a microcosm of the Musk condition. The guy is a deeply unserious person, who is always dead serious saying unserious things, and using everyone around him like a play-toy. The benefit of communication is to share facts and information with one another, so we can be less wrong together, so we can be more coordinated. Musk does the opposite. He aims to mislead, to confuse and to profit from the confusion.
clouddrover 3y ago
> Trying to rush Elon into a bout without giving him reasonable time to prepare is a weak move. It is truly remarkable how people manage to get things so backwards. Musk was the one who issued the challenge. It was his idea. If Musk isn't ready for it then he shouldn't run around inviting people out for a fight. Musk is an attention seeking narcissist. The only weak moves here are Musk's lame antics.
- valianteffort 3y ago
  Professional fighters issue challenges all the time, then they agree on a later date and take months to do their training camp. Nobody walks around ready for battle at all times, it's remarkable how little you know about fighting but still feel the need to comment.
  - clouddrover 3y ago
    > Nobody walks around ready for battle at all times You contradicted yourself within two comments: "Khabib however trains everyday". And you seem to be missing the point that Zuckerberg is ready to go right now. Too bad that Musk is unable to live up to his own bluster. Musk is a pointless brat. You're wasting your life defending him.
- superchroma 3y ago
  this, particularly the last part. Musk has a body like a worn out couch, the only thing he is fighting is hair loss.

JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago

Musk first wanted to fight Putin then he challenged Zuck. One should think that when you are the one challenging others left and right to fight in the oktagon, you do it while at the peak of your physical form. But of course everything can happen and you have to respect a champion like Musk. A champion at running his mouth, that is. If the fight happens and it’s not a farce it will end up like Khabib vs. McGregor

rowanG077 3y ago
Musk is way too smart to run into this fight without training. It's simply completely insane to expect this fight to happen with 3 weeks.
- JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
  > > Musk is way too smart Is this your rational stance or you just want it to be true? Maybe because you are emotionally attached to SpaceX and Tesla?
  - rowanG077 3y ago
    Is this a serious response? I have no attachment to any company Musk owns. I own/use not a single product they have made. Maybe, just maybe, it's you who is irrational here. Disliking a person you will never interact with because he has done a few things you disagree with. The guy has a double degree in physics and economics. The guy whose companies single handedly upended the car industry. The guy whose companies build the first viable reuseable rockets. Musk is definitely a weirdo. But denying his intelligence is wildly stupid.
    - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
      Reagan, Bush and Trump were even more successful as they were at the helm of a 400M people country with a 20T GDP Tesla is what? A 80,000 people company with 90bn in revenue? Peanuts compared to the United States of America. Point is you cannot hide behind your title, sooner or later you have to sit in a room with other people and you have to speak, and if you say idiotic things people are gonna notice and call you out and you'll get exposed. That's exactly what happened in the last 3 years with Musk. There's a reason why the saying 'The emperor has no clothes' is so popular, it's because something like this happened thosands of times throughout history. Guy gets incredible and once in a lifetime tailwind, gets a title and sits on it. People from all over the place come to meet the man with the unique title anticipating a world-shattering intellect/charisma or what have you and in the end they realize it was just a guy who had incredible tailwinds after all
      - rowanG077 3y ago
        > Reagan, Bush and Trump were even more successful as they were at the helm of a 400M people country with a 20T GDP Are you joking here? None of them are even remotely as successful as Musk. A president is not the founder of a country. It's incomparable. > Tesla is what? A 80,000 people company with 90bn in revenue? Peanuts compared to the United States of America. You forget SpaceX, Neuralink, Boring company, Twitter, Paypal, OpenAI. > Point is you cannot hide behind your title, sooner or later you have to get in a room with other people and you have to speak, and if you say idiotic things people are gonna notice and call you out and you'll get exposed. > That's exactly what happened in the last 3 years with Musk How is he exposed? Some internet haters are talking smack? Musk is swimming in money while his companies are racking up successes. If anything this makes the haters look even more irrational. What do you think it takes to create numerous highly successful companies? You don't need to talk to people to do that?
        JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
        > > Musk is swimming in money while his companies are racking up successes And by running his wide mouth he has proven the to the world that all of that is in spite of him, not because of him. It's the equivalent of pop-stars trying to write their own songs or improvising on stage. They are nothing without the structure that propelled them forward, similarly Musk is nothing without luck, had he kept his mouth shut he'd have at least managed to fool those who are not familiar with the concept of survivorship bias, and apparently you seem to be one of them. To be clear I believe all the above applies to every billionaire not just Musk.
- mdwalters 3y ago
  He does have Jiu-jitsu training
- 3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
  If someone tells you “I challenge you to a cage fight”, tell me what timeline you think they have in mind. “I challenge you” and then we wait two years or what? Do you realize this makes no damn sense. Also Musk issued the challenge in June. Not today. Despite Zuckerberg not issuing the challenge, he gave Musk over two months to get his shit together and he clearly can’t.
  - valianteffort 3y ago
    To take the GP comments fight as an example, there was 64 days between when Khabib v McGregor was announced and their actual bout. Both camps knew there would be a fight and so consider negotations started at least one month prior to that. So both trained fighters had at least 90 days to prepare. Khabib however trains everyday, that is his life and he has done nothing else his whole life. Connor I'm not so sure but at a minimum he had the three months. These guys are elite, the best at their weight class, and they had three months. People here who have never had so much as an afterschool fight in their life thinking it takes a week to prepare for something.
    - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
      > > People here who have never had so much as an afterschool fight That is the perfect description of Musk, the only fighting experience he had was back when bullies used to beat him up in high school. And in retrospect, the bullies were right
  - rowanG077 3y ago
    > tell me what timeline you think they have in mind. The timeline that both contestants are available and content with? It's not like there is deadline. This is just some lighthearted fun. There is literally 0 reason to rush it.
    - 3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
      It's jerking around the media and the attention of everyone, and telling Zuckerberg to spend two months in gym with professionals preparing himself, only to then say "oh, I forgot I have a bad back, sorry". It may be lighthearted fun, for the most part, but it's a microcosm of the Musk condition. The guy is a deeply unserious person, who is always dead serious saying unserious things, and using everyone around him like a play-toy. The benefit of communication is to share facts and information with one another, so we can be less wrong together, so we can be more coordinated. Musk does the opposite. He aims to mislead, to confuse and to profit from the confusion.

clouddrover 3y ago

> Trying to rush Elon into a bout without giving him reasonable time to prepare is a weak move. It is truly remarkable how people manage to get things so backwards. Musk was the one who issued the challenge. It was his idea. If Musk isn't ready for it then he shouldn't run around inviting people out for a fight. Musk is an attention seeking narcissist. The only weak moves here are Musk's lame antics.

valianteffort 3y ago
Professional fighters issue challenges all the time, then they agree on a later date and take months to do their training camp. Nobody walks around ready for battle at all times, it's remarkable how little you know about fighting but still feel the need to comment.
- clouddrover 3y ago
  > Nobody walks around ready for battle at all times You contradicted yourself within two comments: "Khabib however trains everyday". And you seem to be missing the point that Zuckerberg is ready to go right now. Too bad that Musk is unable to live up to his own bluster. Musk is a pointless brat. You're wasting your life defending him.
superchroma 3y ago
this, particularly the last part. Musk has a body like a worn out couch, the only thing he is fighting is hair loss.