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The issue here is procedural, not facial recognition per se. There ought to be a sensible procedure on how to approach people who have been flagged by facial r

The issue here is procedural, not facial recognition per se. There ought to be a sensible procedure on how to approach people who have been flagged by facial recognition. Now, I don't know what is the normal procedure in the US when police think they have recognised someone who's wanted. Perhaps they do exactly the same as they did to that woman in any case... At least in countries where everyone carries an ID card police could ask for ID first or the person could show their ID to at least and hopefully keep the police in "not sure, let's go easy" mode.

jacquesm 3y ago
> There ought to be a sensible procedure on how to approach people who have been flagged by facial recognition. I would suggest 'not'.
rootusrootus 3y ago
> Perhaps they do exactly the same as they did to that woman in any case.. It's arguable than in most instances they don't overreact and throw pregnant women into jail for half a day. In a country of 330,000,000 people, you would expect to see stories like this all day, every day, if it were even a little bit routine. The fact that this is national news gives some idea how out of the ordinary it is.
- elliekelly 3y ago
  Or she’s one of the few with the resources & social connections to get this on the country’s radar.
- woodruffw 3y ago
  This is a dangerous abductive leap: the victim here is one of six people who were incorrectly arrested due to faulty facial recognition, in just a single mid-sized city. Not all of them received national news stories, and almost certainly never will. We're reading (rightfully) about this woman's story because it has all of the "right" parts: her innocence is painfully obvious, she's pregnant, a professional, a working mother of two, etc. There are others just like her, and the evidence we have points to there being many others just like her; they deserve attention as well, and not to be erased as statistical anomalies.
  - rootusrootus 3y ago
    > This is a dangerous abductive leap I think I could make a plausibly convincing argument that the rate of abuse is low enough that the damage to police<->public relationship from media playing up these incidents has actually led to a more dangerous situation than the incidents themselves. Not quite ready to go there, but I think it's worth at least considering that everyone can fall prey to media hype and blow little things entirely out of proportion, leading to a worse overall outcome. We do want to improve oversight of the police, but making them out as a public enemy seems like it might be counterproductive.
    - woodruffw 3y ago
      We live in an open society: the public is entitled to know when the police arrest citizens based on faulty evidence. Nobody made them perform an arrest here or in the other five cases; any damage to the police's image in the eyes of the public can be identified solely with their own actions. In this situation, the reporting seems pretty dispassionate to me (arguably more than it should be, given that a pregnant woman was arrested for a crime she manifestly could not have committed). I don't see a lack of proportion here.
nateglims 3y ago
The police found the person identified by the facial recognition and eyewitness, how would checking her ID help?

jacquesm 3y ago

> There ought to be a sensible procedure on how to approach people who have been flagged by facial recognition. I would suggest 'not'.

rootusrootus 3y ago

> Perhaps they do exactly the same as they did to that woman in any case.. It's arguable than in most instances they don't overreact and throw pregnant women into jail for half a day. In a country of 330,000,000 people, you would expect to see stories like this all day, every day, if it were even a little bit routine. The fact that this is national news gives some idea how out of the ordinary it is.

elliekelly 3y ago
Or she’s one of the few with the resources & social connections to get this on the country’s radar.
woodruffw 3y ago
This is a dangerous abductive leap: the victim here is one of six people who were incorrectly arrested due to faulty facial recognition, in just a single mid-sized city. Not all of them received national news stories, and almost certainly never will. We're reading (rightfully) about this woman's story because it has all of the "right" parts: her innocence is painfully obvious, she's pregnant, a professional, a working mother of two, etc. There are others just like her, and the evidence we have points to there being many others just like her; they deserve attention as well, and not to be erased as statistical anomalies.
- rootusrootus 3y ago
  > This is a dangerous abductive leap I think I could make a plausibly convincing argument that the rate of abuse is low enough that the damage to police<->public relationship from media playing up these incidents has actually led to a more dangerous situation than the incidents themselves. Not quite ready to go there, but I think it's worth at least considering that everyone can fall prey to media hype and blow little things entirely out of proportion, leading to a worse overall outcome. We do want to improve oversight of the police, but making them out as a public enemy seems like it might be counterproductive.
  - woodruffw 3y ago
    We live in an open society: the public is entitled to know when the police arrest citizens based on faulty evidence. Nobody made them perform an arrest here or in the other five cases; any damage to the police's image in the eyes of the public can be identified solely with their own actions. In this situation, the reporting seems pretty dispassionate to me (arguably more than it should be, given that a pregnant woman was arrested for a crime she manifestly could not have committed). I don't see a lack of proportion here.

nateglims 3y ago

The police found the person identified by the facial recognition and eyewitness, how would checking her ID help?