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So where are all the studies showing that it’s better? All I ever hear is individual anecdotes claiming increased productivity and then it always centers around

So where are all the studies showing that it’s better? All I ever hear is individual anecdotes claiming increased productivity and then it always centers around all sorts of individual benefits generally unrelated to productivity for your organization. i.e. “My commute”, “More time to do…” I work from home and dont want to change. I can make a case why it’s better for me, but I can’t make a case why it’s better for my employer.

ethanbond 3y ago
Right, so that’s why I’m not asking them for productivity data. A lot of people just like working from home. It’s the companies saying that productivity has gone down, so I’m very curious: how do they know? They never seem to say. Management could say “come RTO because I prefer it that way” in which case asking for productivity data would be silly, but management doesn’t say that because it’d be unconvincing and indicative of vibe-based management.
- kcplate 3y ago
  It’s certainly vibe based, most executive decision making to degree is. However, it’s their prerogative to manage that way. Employers have always had control over where the work is performed. As employees we can choose to not work there if the location of the work doesn’t meet our needs. More than once in my career I have worked for companies that have moved office locations. In all the cases I certainly wasn’t consulted ahead of time or given a vote. To my knowledge, no one beyond the executive leadership had a vote in the location. I am not sure why RTO vs WFH is any different.
  - ethanbond 3y ago
    It’s telling that even here in this thread, the answer to “what’s the evidence” is “employers aren’t required to produce evidence.” Correct! They are obviously not required to produce evidence! But the question wasn’t “are they required to produce evidence,” it was “what’s the evidence,” and so the provided answer here amounts to “I don’t know/I don’t have any/I don’t know if they have any”

ethanbond 3y ago

Right, so that’s why I’m not asking them for productivity data. A lot of people just like working from home. It’s the companies saying that productivity has gone down, so I’m very curious: how do they know? They never seem to say. Management could say “come RTO because I prefer it that way” in which case asking for productivity data would be silly, but management doesn’t say that because it’d be unconvincing and indicative of vibe-based management.

kcplate 3y ago
It’s certainly vibe based, most executive decision making to degree is. However, it’s their prerogative to manage that way. Employers have always had control over where the work is performed. As employees we can choose to not work there if the location of the work doesn’t meet our needs. More than once in my career I have worked for companies that have moved office locations. In all the cases I certainly wasn’t consulted ahead of time or given a vote. To my knowledge, no one beyond the executive leadership had a vote in the location. I am not sure why RTO vs WFH is any different.
- ethanbond 3y ago
  It’s telling that even here in this thread, the answer to “what’s the evidence” is “employers aren’t required to produce evidence.” Correct! They are obviously not required to produce evidence! But the question wasn’t “are they required to produce evidence,” it was “what’s the evidence,” and so the provided answer here amounts to “I don’t know/I don’t have any/I don’t know if they have any”