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New Dungeons and Dragons Sourcebook Features AI Generated Art

20 points by CharlesW 3y ago

gwern 3y ago
Looking at the provided after-before pair, https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,q_60,w_1315/4e89812f681e327ad51e7220de22c17e.jpg https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_au... , this seems like an incredibly reasonable use of AI tools, scarcely even worthy of the title's description of 'AI generated art', unless you count Photoshop features going back decades as also 'AI generated art'. If this is now mobworthy...
- mistrial9 3y ago
  .. because the flood is just beginning. It seems disingenuous to ignore the context, so just say "I am in favor of AI generated art for D&D products executed by the company who owns the trademark" and be out with it
  - aaron695 3y ago
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Frummy 3y ago
Cry about it.. Let's bottleneck ourselves for the sake of purity, in fact, let's stop using tools altogether
- ilrwbwrkhv 3y ago
  Well yes and no. While it is true that purity for the sake of it is useless, games like D&D have a human element which is very important. There is a reason why the Dungeon Master is human. Zooming out a bit, I find a lot of this momentum towards replacing our work with computer output is a bit sad. We should instead focus those resources on things like finding a cure for cancer. Things which were not possible to do before. In other cases like art and writing, the work is half of the fun and that is why there is a "controversy".
  - Frummy 3y ago
    The human wasnt replaced, its more human to use the tools available to you than to purposefully stay in the past. True artists push the limit, adopting new tools is part of that. “We should instead focus on curing cancer” Oh please
    - eternityforest 3y ago
      I can understand why people are upset, because there's definitely a sense that the DM will be an AI next. Look how karaoke took over from filk. How tabletop games are also phone scroll circles. How some events have become more like just regular drinking parties than anything else...
      - unaindz 3y ago
        There are already games where the DM is an AI, doesn't seem to stop anyone from playing with a human DM. Though I still don't see what that has to do with using an AI tool to improve your drawing skill/speed.
ragestorm 3y ago
>putting him at odds with many in the D&D and TTRPG communities who do not hold with either NFTs or AI generated art Might as well ban all software and computers which gives an advantage over hand drawn content. Seems like an AI brush tool was used and the tool pays the artists through the nfts. What's the problem again? That they disclose it? Okay, anyways...
- mattl 3y ago
  The problem is that they didn't disclose it to WOTC and WOTC just banned AI content (which is a good thing)
  - ragestorm 3y ago
    That changes things as the article never explained that.
gmerc 3y ago
So he forgot to pay Adobe and rotate some stuff around to use content aware infill because if you use photoshop it’s not AI

20 points by CharlesW 3y ago

Looking at the provided after-before pair, https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,q_60,w_1315/4e89812f681e327ad51e7220de22c17e.jpg https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_au... , this seems like an incredibly reasonable use of AI tools, scarcely even worthy of the title's description of 'AI generated art', unless you count Photoshop features going back decades as also 'AI generated art'. If this is now mobworthy...

mistrial9 3y ago
.. because the flood is just beginning. It seems disingenuous to ignore the context, so just say "I am in favor of AI generated art for D&D products executed by the company who owns the trademark" and be out with it
- aaron695 3y ago
  [dead]

Frummy 3y ago

Cry about it.. Let's bottleneck ourselves for the sake of purity, in fact, let's stop using tools altogether

ilrwbwrkhv 3y ago
Well yes and no. While it is true that purity for the sake of it is useless, games like D&D have a human element which is very important. There is a reason why the Dungeon Master is human. Zooming out a bit, I find a lot of this momentum towards replacing our work with computer output is a bit sad. We should instead focus those resources on things like finding a cure for cancer. Things which were not possible to do before. In other cases like art and writing, the work is half of the fun and that is why there is a "controversy".
- Frummy 3y ago
  The human wasnt replaced, its more human to use the tools available to you than to purposefully stay in the past. True artists push the limit, adopting new tools is part of that. “We should instead focus on curing cancer” Oh please
  - eternityforest 3y ago
    I can understand why people are upset, because there's definitely a sense that the DM will be an AI next. Look how karaoke took over from filk. How tabletop games are also phone scroll circles. How some events have become more like just regular drinking parties than anything else...
    - unaindz 3y ago
      There are already games where the DM is an AI, doesn't seem to stop anyone from playing with a human DM. Though I still don't see what that has to do with using an AI tool to improve your drawing skill/speed.

ragestorm 3y ago

>putting him at odds with many in the D&D and TTRPG communities who do not hold with either NFTs or AI generated art Might as well ban all software and computers which gives an advantage over hand drawn content. Seems like an AI brush tool was used and the tool pays the artists through the nfts. What's the problem again? That they disclose it? Okay, anyways...

mattl 3y ago
The problem is that they didn't disclose it to WOTC and WOTC just banned AI content (which is a good thing)
- ragestorm 3y ago
  That changes things as the article never explained that.

gmerc 3y ago

So he forgot to pay Adobe and rotate some stuff around to use content aware infill because if you use photoshop it’s not AI