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Oh my god, that's a beautiful sight.

by guerrilla 3y ago

heyoni 3y ago
Yep. I am so glad this is happening because hopefully it means this is also the last time. RIP Digg and Reddit.
- paulcole 3y ago
  > hopefully it means this is also the last time What would make you think(or even hope) this is true? Until users are made to pay (ideally with dollars and not with attention) for a service like Reddit/Digg/Lemmy/whatever, these services are going to keep going away. Eventually there are bills to be paid and/or people who want to be paid.
  - heyoni 3y ago
    The fact that no one is really in control. I donate to my mastodon instance knowing that if it takes a turn for the worst, I can just go somewhere else and donate there. It’s not flawless but at least no one is holding all the cards.
  - danielbln 3y ago
    Instances might go away, but not the Fediverse itself. See IRC, email and so on.
    - paulcole 3y ago
      But that’s like saying Gmail can go away but email itself lives on. Technically true but the Gmail users are gonna be pissed.
      - heyoni 3y ago
        Still a step forward. Right now Reddit is like facebook messenger, doesn't interact with anything. If it goes away, it's 100% gone. If your phone carrier disappears, you might have to change your number but you could still text anyone in your phonebook.
      - neurostimulant 3y ago
        At least when an instance is gone, their contents are still exist in the federated instances. The problem is those contents are now detached from the fediverse at large. Would be nice if there is a way to mark one of the federated instance as the new home for those contents to restart federation again.
  - guerrilla 3y ago
    > Until users are made to pay (ideally with dollars and not with attention) for a service like Reddit/Digg/Lemmy/whatever, these services are going to keep going away. Nobody needs to be "made" to pay. There are many different models already for running Mastodon servers. Some are cooperatives, some are crowdfunded, some have premium content, some are literal non-profit charities, some are parts of bigger businesses that do anything. You can't have done any research into this before you made your comment or else you'd know that.

Oh my god, that's a beautiful sight.

heyoni 3y ago

Yep. I am so glad this is happening because hopefully it means this is also the last time. RIP Digg and Reddit.

paulcole 3y ago
> hopefully it means this is also the last time What would make you think(or even hope) this is true? Until users are made to pay (ideally with dollars and not with attention) for a service like Reddit/Digg/Lemmy/whatever, these services are going to keep going away. Eventually there are bills to be paid and/or people who want to be paid.
- heyoni 3y ago
  The fact that no one is really in control. I donate to my mastodon instance knowing that if it takes a turn for the worst, I can just go somewhere else and donate there. It’s not flawless but at least no one is holding all the cards.
- danielbln 3y ago
  Instances might go away, but not the Fediverse itself. See IRC, email and so on.
  - paulcole 3y ago
    But that’s like saying Gmail can go away but email itself lives on. Technically true but the Gmail users are gonna be pissed.
    - heyoni 3y ago
      Still a step forward. Right now Reddit is like facebook messenger, doesn't interact with anything. If it goes away, it's 100% gone. If your phone carrier disappears, you might have to change your number but you could still text anyone in your phonebook.
    - neurostimulant 3y ago
      At least when an instance is gone, their contents are still exist in the federated instances. The problem is those contents are now detached from the fediverse at large. Would be nice if there is a way to mark one of the federated instance as the new home for those contents to restart federation again.
- guerrilla 3y ago
  > Until users are made to pay (ideally with dollars and not with attention) for a service like Reddit/Digg/Lemmy/whatever, these services are going to keep going away. Nobody needs to be "made" to pay. There are many different models already for running Mastodon servers. Some are cooperatives, some are crowdfunded, some have premium content, some are literal non-profit charities, some are parts of bigger businesses that do anything. You can't have done any research into this before you made your comment or else you'd know that.