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We got a return to office memo and an active shooter plan in the same week.
by 39 3y ago
We got a return to office memo and an active shooter plan in the same week.
- shipscode 3y agoDo they let you guys carry at least?
- Gigachad 3y agoWhat kind of hellscape office has guns in it?
- logicchains 3y agoMaybe people'd behave extra-civil in an office in which everyone was carrying.
- nkrisc 3y agoWhat a lovely working environment: please everyone, or die.
- jfengel 3y agoAn American one, where the solution to the problem of guns is more guns.
- devoutsalsa 3y agoPeace through superior firepower #murica
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- Pigalowda 3y agoYou got a solution? Are you going to travel back in time to prevent the second amendment from being written? Or are you going to get a 2/3rd majority of state governors to call for a constitutional convention? Maybe you can convince 2/3rd majorities of the house and senate to overturn?
- jfengel 3y agoWell, one could take the whole "well regulated militia" thing seriously. Or one could say that "arms" was never intended to refer to weapons capable of killing many people in a short time, which is how it has been interpreted with respect to bombs and chemical weapons. Failing that, sure, it would be nice if people could actually think the way the founders did, and seek a collective solution. But in a country where large numbers of people absolutely insist on the unrestricted ability to cause mass death, the only possibility is that the Constitution really is a suicide pact.
- Pigalowda 3y agoMaybe in the future “well regulated” will mean that a president creates a “National militia” or deputizes anyone with a lawful firearm and no one else can buy a gun outside of the militia. Of course this militia would be right wing but I guess dictatorship is how it could end.
- supertrope 3y agoBack then well regulated meant equipped. English has evolved over time. Of course if one day we had six liberal judges they might use the modern meaning of regulated.
- TuringNYC 3y agoIANAL but buildings and companies are allowed to have specific policies that are stricter than national and state policies. You need any of the above.
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- moffkalast 3y agoBarret, Colt, Smith & Wesson, etc. presumably.
- linuxftw 3y agoIn the American south, just about every public place you encounter will have people carrying guns, with a few exceptions. It's just a fact of life, you might as well pack your own.
- vorpalhex 3y agoWell probably almost all of them in the states, outside of the few that have made conceal carry impossible. I once talked with my coworkers about conceal carry. Turned out probably a good 1/8th of the office carried.
- JonChesterfield 3y ago1/8th of them carried guns while going shopping or while at the office?
- vorpalhex 3y agoYep, and probably while going for a jog or hitting the convenience store to grab a gallon of milk. As my former firearms instructor put it: "If a bad guy ever schedules a meeting on your calendar to mug you.. you should decline and not show up. Otherwise since bad guys don't usually book ahead, always be prepared." One of the things we train people is that just because you can carry a firearm doesn't mean you should go places you normally wouldn't. If you consider a place too dangerous to go to normally, having a firearm doesn't change that.
- 39 3y agoThat’s stupid. Nobody wants guns in the office. An accident will happen long before you get an opportunity to be “heroic.”
- willcipriano 3y agoPing ping tables? Free coffee? I'll wfh thanks. Onsite shooting range? I'm coming in on the weekends as well.
- HelloNurse 3y agoBut compared with games and food a shooting range is such a niche perk that the required large room could be put to better uses, isn't it?
- willcipriano 3y agoFood probably won't get me to come in. I'm on a diet so I'd probably try to avoid the temptation. Everybody has preferences. Work is a serious place to me so going to a gun range (another serious place) isn't a big context switch in the same way something fun like a game is. I can't turn off enough to enjoy a game at work, or even during working hours.
- JonChesterfield 3y agoHang on, you're saying a plausible scenario in the US is office workers carrying guns. How common is that? I've been sidestepping opportunities to go to Austin on the grounds that I might be shot trying to commute to the office. Do I also need to factor in that whoever I'm talking to at the office might be carrying a gun?
- dudul 3y agoI dont even know how seriously to take this comment. First of all, active shooters can be found anywhere. Of course someone can go crazy and show up at the workplace with a gun. Second, it depends on what you mean by common. 80% of active shooter incidents happen at work. However, you probably have less than 0.5% chances of being involved in one. Sucks when you are for sure, but these are pretty good odds. Finally, avoiding an entire city just for that is dumb. Especially when you have way more risks in NYC or Chicago.
- JonChesterfield 3y agoIt's a sincere attempt to estimate the prior. Information on the US and guns is very heavily political. What american developers consider "obviously normal" about carrying guns to places developers go is probably as accurate an insight as one can find. Probability of getting shot is related to how many guns are present. Prior to this thread I just assumed there were no guns in the office, because that's the European prior. However I'm now thinking of the reaction to rust's no-guns-at-conferences stance where a non-zero number of people thought that was so contentious that they wouldn't go to a conference without their guns. You say most active shootings happen at the workplace. If true, interesting in combination with the apparent frequency of school shootings. I mentioned a specific city as I believe there's an association between Texas and revolvers which might skew the odds further.