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Google streetview of 10 Euro bridge: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.852235,4.3379891,3a,75y,13.17h,78.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7pSiNhejNvQrURRltZwfGA!2e0!7i1638

by tromp 3y ago

Google streetview of 10 Euro bridge: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.852235,4.3379891,3a,75y,13.17h,78.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7pSiNhejNvQrURRltZwfGA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu https://www.google.com/maps/@51.852235,4.3379891,3a,75y,13.1... Others can be found by following canal backwards. Check out the suspension cables on https://www.google.com/maps/@51.8510747,4.3358721,3a,75y,335.5h,83.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suTmCH0FE5ginrb1lhDsJXQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu https://www.google.com/maps/@51.8510747,4.3358721,3a,75y,335...

lifeisstillgood 3y ago
Two things struck me. Firstly it still amazes me I can (virtually) stroll around a town I have never visited and get a real feel for it's space and living (oh that's what Dutch recycling bind look like!) Secondly and more depressing I think we have to rebuild our urban environments to de-prioritise the car. To hit carbon targets we need less cars, less car journeys etc (it's madness to build EVs 1:1replacemrnt with really high carbon initial inbuilt cost). And yet nice new developments in the nice advanced dutch world are still the same slaves to cars, roads and parking. I don't know how we fix this - urban planning is going to make or break millions or billions of lives.
- gattilorenz 3y ago
  Sure, but not every country has the same amount of cars per capita, and especially not the same amount of miles traveled by car vs other means. If anything, the Netherlands could be an example for most of Europe and the USA on how to lower the amount of car trips. While most people have a car, it’s seeing less use than in most countries I’m familiar with: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Passenger_mobility_statistics#Travel_mode https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...
- yrro 3y ago
  > we have to rebuild our urban environments to de-prioritise the car This is a great phrasing, thank you
  - lifeisstillgood 3y ago
    It's been bothering me for a while - trying to avoid being too rabid or too weak.
- pjerem 3y ago
  > Two things struck me. Firstly it still amazes me I can (virtually) stroll around a town I have never visited and get a real feel for it's space and living (oh that's what Dutch recycling bind look like!) You should try Apple’s street view competitor (in Plans). They developed an amazing effect when you move around, with parallax, 3D and all. Very impressive.

by tromp 3y ago

lifeisstillgood 3y ago

Two things struck me. Firstly it still amazes me I can (virtually) stroll around a town I have never visited and get a real feel for it's space and living (oh that's what Dutch recycling bind look like!) Secondly and more depressing I think we have to rebuild our urban environments to de-prioritise the car. To hit carbon targets we need less cars, less car journeys etc (it's madness to build EVs 1:1replacemrnt with really high carbon initial inbuilt cost). And yet nice new developments in the nice advanced dutch world are still the same slaves to cars, roads and parking. I don't know how we fix this - urban planning is going to make or break millions or billions of lives.

gattilorenz 3y ago
Sure, but not every country has the same amount of cars per capita, and especially not the same amount of miles traveled by car vs other means. If anything, the Netherlands could be an example for most of Europe and the USA on how to lower the amount of car trips. While most people have a car, it’s seeing less use than in most countries I’m familiar with: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Passenger_mobility_statistics#Travel_mode https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...
yrro 3y ago
> we have to rebuild our urban environments to de-prioritise the car This is a great phrasing, thank you
- lifeisstillgood 3y ago
  It's been bothering me for a while - trying to avoid being too rabid or too weak.
pjerem 3y ago
> Two things struck me. Firstly it still amazes me I can (virtually) stroll around a town I have never visited and get a real feel for it's space and living (oh that's what Dutch recycling bind look like!) You should try Apple’s street view competitor (in Plans). They developed an amazing effect when you move around, with parallax, 3D and all. Very impressive.