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I think the logic is a bit skewed from another angle. How much of the goods used in the UK are produced in China? If so, surely we should reallocate and attrib
by fnordpiglet 3y ago
I think the logic is a bit skewed from another angle. How much of the goods used in the UK are produced in China? If so, surely we should reallocate and attribute the CO2 in that production and distribution chain to the UK? If widget X is going to be produced somewhere and consumed in the UK, why does the producer get the attribution? It could just as well been produced in the UK - supply is just reacting to demand, and CO2 is a demand problem. (Not entirely true as production in one locale is likely cleaner than another due to regulation and environmental consciousness, but I think my reattribution model is closer than what we do today).
Re: well being, I think it’s a losing argument. Efficiency and better technologies are more likely to happen than mass enlightenment. I think it depends on what you mean by well being. I suspect people are generally happier for the progress that’s been made in reducing extreme poverty globally, which couldn’t have happened without a cheap and efficient portable energy source like oil. If you’re only measuring western upper middle class educated folks, I’ll wager their well being is worse. But I think you can’t separate the two - the lifting of billions out of extreme poverty and the enshittification of middle class life in the west. But whether you can or not, oil bootstrapped us to this point. But I think we’re demonstrably past bootstrapping and we absolutely must do something different.
- adamnaga 3y ago[dead]