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Do talk to your foreign colleagues about the immigration bureaucracy one of these days, it's frankly inhumane. China is simply offering better conditions, no ne

Do talk to your foreign colleagues about the immigration bureaucracy one of these days, it's frankly inhumane. China is simply offering better conditions, no need to apply the whip when you can hand out carrots.

BeetleB 3y ago
It's not that hard to get immigration if you're a faculty member - especially in STEM. Everyone I know - including Chinese - got it fairly easily. Many even during their postdoc years. I believe there is a separate queue if you're getting it via academia and there's no special backlog there for Chinese.
- HarryHirsch 3y ago
  Do consult the Visa Bulletin: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/2023/visa-bulletin-for-august-2023.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/v... The waiting time for E2 preference for Chinese nationals is 4 years (priority date 9 July 2019, for Indian nationals it's 12 years (priority date 1 Jan 2011). That's what most academics would fall under (I certainly did). Those who fall under E1 preference will get their Green Card a little faster. US immigration is a fraught topic. People with no or second-hand experience of the immigration system will manage to upset those who had to navigate it even with the best of intents. They would do well to keep silence.
  - BeetleB 3y ago
    Not really. Academics are often EB2, but there is a separate queue for academics. They do not distinguish between origin in that queue. An Indian is treated the same as any other country.
  - refurb 3y ago
    That's permanent residence. Getting a temporary work permit is different.
chaostheory 3y ago
I can understand some of it given some notable examples of IP theft by China, but it’s absolutely bonkers when even people from allied countries like South Korea are part of the witch hunt unless members of the justice department can’t differentiate Asians from different countries.

BeetleB 3y ago

It's not that hard to get immigration if you're a faculty member - especially in STEM. Everyone I know - including Chinese - got it fairly easily. Many even during their postdoc years. I believe there is a separate queue if you're getting it via academia and there's no special backlog there for Chinese.

HarryHirsch 3y ago
Do consult the Visa Bulletin: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/2023/visa-bulletin-for-august-2023.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/v... The waiting time for E2 preference for Chinese nationals is 4 years (priority date 9 July 2019, for Indian nationals it's 12 years (priority date 1 Jan 2011). That's what most academics would fall under (I certainly did). Those who fall under E1 preference will get their Green Card a little faster. US immigration is a fraught topic. People with no or second-hand experience of the immigration system will manage to upset those who had to navigate it even with the best of intents. They would do well to keep silence.
- BeetleB 3y ago
  Not really. Academics are often EB2, but there is a separate queue for academics. They do not distinguish between origin in that queue. An Indian is treated the same as any other country.
- refurb 3y ago
  That's permanent residence. Getting a temporary work permit is different.

chaostheory 3y ago

I can understand some of it given some notable examples of IP theft by China, but it’s absolutely bonkers when even people from allied countries like South Korea are part of the witch hunt unless members of the justice department can’t differentiate Asians from different countries.